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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
I have sold it to the State of Texas and private buyers for 20 years. It is generally the same price as concrete mix, bought wholesale, but has to be bagged per order, since it is in unlined bags..
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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
dlcj -
A very noble idea, but really bad. Making bagged pre-propotioned mix by yourself is stupid. Where are you going to buy the sand cheaper? How you going to dry the sand to get a mix that will not set in the bag and give you consistancy? Who is going to haul the sand and how do you propose to store it? Where are you going to get the cement in bulk any cheaper? How are you going to haul the cement? How do you propose to store and wight the cement without waste? Where you will get bags and what do they cost? After you have bags. how do propose to fill and stich/seal them? You better use them quickly. Sakrete/Quikrete and similar products are made to meet the minimum specs to meet the price requirements of the cheap shoppers or those that need the convenience. After you have the bags, you can added something to the mixture for satisfaction of knowing how to get what you want. If you think you can do it cheaper that is your problem. - The other choice is to buy what is best suited for a real contractor's needs.
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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
1 bag of portland, 3 bags of dry sand costs 22 bucks. 5ea 2-ply bags cost $1.75, so your material costs at retail are four dollars and seventy five cents a bag, plus labor to make it yourself.
Rip-rap goes for 3 bucks a bag by the pallet, less for truckloads.
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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
I was talking about building a wall with staked up bags of dry concrete mix (see earlier post by me and others) not bagging my own to use on jobs that would be dumb. Not storing anything. Buy a truck load of sand a load of gravel and a pallet of portland. Mix a few bags and stack them let them set thats the idea. Last time i figured it up it would be a lot cheaper than store bought sackrete here (only thing i didnt now about was the bags).Not to mention not having to build and pay for forms for a retaining wall. This is something me and others were talking about doing for ourselves not for paying customers.
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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
gabian baskets or hire a pro.
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Re: Low Cost Retaining Wall??
I've even thought about building the gabian baskets too. Using 4x10 fencing sections we call cattle panels. They're made of galvanized 3/16" or 1/4" wire in various mesh sizes. Would be easy to bend in a press break that i have access to.
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