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Old 06-22-2017, 08:01 AM   #1
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Legalities Of Renting An Electrician License In Florida


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I am interested in knowing the ins-outs of the legalities of purchasing (renting) an electricians license from a master electrician so I can do electrical jobs. Does the person who owns the license have to be present on all job sites whether its something as small as installing garden lighting to full fledged electrical work for a new house? I know lots of people who pay a certain amount monthly to the master electrician for renting the license but yet the master electrician (license holder) never visits any job sites. How can this be legal?

Here are some things that I want to do
1. install lighting
2. install outlets
3. bury cable

What is the right way to rent a license from a master electrician who no longer does work and is semi-retired but willing to have me pay him monthly to use his license for me to do electrical work? Does he need to be at all jobsites regardless of the work being performed?

Any help is appreciated beforehand...
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Old 06-22-2017, 11:36 AM   #2
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What you describe is not legal in FL.

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What you describe is not legal in FL.
I've learned from this site that a lot of shady stuff goes on in FL.
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I know there is some arrangement where you can rent licenses in some states, but sheesh why not just study hard and get your own?
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I would like to meet the contractor who would rent his license to someone he does not know, and thinks it would be a good thing.

Upside- I could make a little extra money

Downside- I could lose everything and still owe money

Yeah I'll do it, he sounds like a nice guy.
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I've never heard of such a thing. I assume there must be some qualifications? How is this ok?
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It's a criminal offense here.


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This guy's first post is about "renting" a license?
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Good lord this just sounds like a terrible idea
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Unfortunately it's common around here. It's how the unlicensed handyman can do an addition and say outta trouble. They just pay/barter with the guy with the license to put their name on the permits. It's shady and I hope it bites them in the a$$ someday.
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I would like to meet the contractor who would rent his license to someone he does not know, and thinks it would be a good thing.

Upside- I could make a little extra money

Downside- I could lose everything and still owe money

Yeah I'll do it, he sounds like a nice guy.
I know a guy in Nevada that still has his CA C10 and C7 licenses. All he does is rent them out for a price each month/year. I worked for his company some time ago and he was a slimy little rat bastard then.

Now he is licensing a company where I was the RMO, but just couldn't take the BS, and, stress of trying to make systems work that were never put together right to begin with - i.e. systems designed by a guy with no electrical, electronic, mechanical, technical or installation experience or knowledge.

So, it makes perfect sense that in this situation, the idiot that runs the company, chooses this guy after I resigned and took my knowledge and RMO license with me.
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Im pretty sure here in Florida its legal to rent a license on the otherhand states like CA make it illegal. I guess my question is more specifically when your renting a license does the license holder have to be present at all jobs?

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What you describe is not legal in FL.
Which part is illegal? The renting of the license or the license holder not being present at the jobs?

I think my question is not the legality of "renting" or being "qualified" as 489.119(2), Florida Statute takes care of that question as it is 100% LEGAL but rather whether or not the contractor who holds the license has to be present at all jobs?

**A licensed contractor may “qualify” the business that has the contract to perform the work. To become the “qualifying agent” a licensed contractor must follow the procedures provided in Section 489.119(2), Florida Statute

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A person can qualify a company.
I qualify my own company.
The key is the person that is qualifying the company needs to be involved in the day to day workings of it. Doesn't mean overseeing every job either.

You have Mistersparky that covers the whole state with 1 electrical license. Yup no way that guys overseeing all the jobs.

In FL, contractor licensing is more about protecting the consumer then the workmanship of the work.
There's tons of licensed contractors around that do **** work and don't care as long as it passes inspection. There's also unlicensed guys that do great work.
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Which part is illegal? The renting of the license or the license holder not being present at the jobs?

I think my question is not the legality of "renting" or being "qualified" as 489.119(2), Florida Statute takes care of that question as it is 100% LEGAL but rather whether or not the contractor who holds the license has to be present at all jobs?

**A licensed contractor may “qualify” the business that has the contract to perform the work. To become the “qualifying agent” a licensed contractor must follow the procedures provided in Section 489.119(2), Florida Statute

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There's a huge difference in a qualified managing officer and renting a license.

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Thanks for the feedback...
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A qualifier must be either a W2 employee or an owner to legally be able to qualify a company. When qualifying they are creating a contract with not only you but the state of Florida that they will have final authority over all construction related aspects of the business. For this to occur, they will have to be present on job sites and supervise. This would mean that they would have to be covered under your insurances including worker's comp and the only way they are exempt from that is if they are an owner.

If they are separate from you receiving a 1099, that means they are an independent contractor and in the state of Florida both of you would need a license. You to act as the prime contractor to hire the sub, him to be the sub doing the work.

So yes, renting/leasing/selling a license is completely illegal. Be sure you be careful in what you post on public forums too as the state licensing watch dogs do monitor some of these channels!
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A qualifier must be either a W2 employee or an owner to legally be able to qualify a company. When qualifying they are creating a contract with not only you but the state of Florida that they will have final authority over all construction related aspects of the business. For this to occur, they will have to be present on job sites and supervise. This would mean that they would have to be covered under your insurances including worker's comp and the only way they are exempt from that is if they are an owner.

If they are separate from you receiving a 1099, that means they are an independent contractor and in the state of Florida both of you would need a license. You to act as the prime contractor to hire the sub, him to be the sub doing the work.

So yes, renting/leasing/selling a license is completely illegal. Be sure you be careful in what you post on public forums too as the state licensing watch dogs do monitor some of these channels!
Lisa, Do you know where I can download a handbook on qualifying in the State of Florida? I've seen the statue but not sure if I'm missing other joining statues to qualifying a business in Florida. I was hoping there is some-type of "Qualifying for Dummies" pdf somewhere that I can download.


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Lisa, Do you know where I can download a handbook on qualifying in the State of Florida? I've seen the statue but not sure if I'm missing other joining statues to qualifying a business in Florida. I was hoping there is some-type of "Qualifying for Dummies" pdf somewhere that I can download.


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Unfortunately I don't. There really is no one stop has it all except the statutes and the administrative code.
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Lisa, Do you know where I can download a handbook on qualifying in the State of Florida? I've seen the statue but not sure if I'm missing other joining statues to qualifying a business in Florida. I was hoping there is some-type of "Qualifying for Dummies" pdf somewhere that I can download.


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It's simple to qualify a business you have to hold a contractors license.
If you need or want the Florida Contractors Manual has all the info, i have not bought a copy in a long time cost some where in the $45.00 range, but you will need the book if you sit the license exam.

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