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Old 06-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #1
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Handymen...what Type Of Work Can We Actually Do?


I am a Florida handyman and I have read the Florida Statutes for contractors several times. I am confused on the work that handymen are legally able to do. Is there clarification anywhere? Am I stuck to just hanging pictures for Grandma?
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I am a Florida handyman and I have read the Florida Statutes for contractors several times. I am confused on the work that handymen are legally able to do. Is there clarification anywhere? Am I stuck to just hanging pictures for Grandma?
you might be able to paint the wall before you hang the picture

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Handymen are allowed to do anything, as long as the material used is duct tape.
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I had the same question 2 years ago when we moved to Florida. I have since figured we can do most anything as long as it is not structural, electrical, or plumbing. Really limits what is possible. And in order to do these things we need a occupational license for each. The county I live in I can paint inside and out, the next county south you need a GC license to paint.
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I'm not at all familiar with the handyman business in Florida; but,in Maryland a handyman like myself is required to have a Home Improvement license.With this license, we can do every type of work that any other home improvement contractor is allowed to do.
We are not allowed to do anything but minor plumbing and electrical and I often refer people to a licensed plumber and electrician. I called the Home Improvement Commission and the person I talked to was very helpful ; but, even he was uncertain about how much of the plumbing and electrical we could do. I myself do a lot of doors,locks and hardware, some windows, a lot of painting,all types of carpentry repairs,ceiling repairs, some tile,minor plumbing (repair and/or replace toilets and faucets), replace ceiling fixtures with ceiling fans,etc.,etc. Every day is different.

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i know old guys that do my best flatwork. never had a license and never out of work. word gets around if you do good by people.
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I'm not at all familiar with the handyman business in Florida; but,in Maryland a handyman like myself is required to have a Home Improvement license.With this license, we can do every type of work that any other home improvement contractor is allowed to do.
We are not allowed to do anything but minor plumbing and electrical and I often refer people to a licensed plumber and electrician. I called the Home Improvement Commission and the person I talked to was very helpful ; but, even he was uncertain about how much of the plumbing and electrical we could do. I myself do a lot of doors,locks and hardware, some windows, a lot of painting,all types of carpentry repairs,ceiling repairs, some tile,minor plumbing (repair and/or replace toilets and faucets), replace ceiling fixtures with ceiling fans,etc.,etc. Every day is different.

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I'm in Florida as well, and it is pretty stiff here for sure. After Hurricane Andrew years back, they really tightened up on the construction trade down here..... you just pretty much need to stay away from any structural or "skilled" trade (Plumbing, Electrical, etc.) I do alot of interior painting, drywall, base and crown moulding, cabinetry installation, interior doors and such. I will do certain light areas of electrical and plumbing....changing out switches and outlets, light fixtures etc., and sink faucets, p-trap assemblies and such when i install a new sink. I do a lot of punch out stuff for contractors as well.....keeps the bills paid!!!

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Can we install :
decks
screen porch rooms
frame out an interior wall (non load bearing)
install floor tile
tear out shower tile and replace with backerboard and new tile

ETC, ETC, ETC......??????
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I will do certain light areas of electrical and plumbing....changing out switches and outlets, light fixtures etc., and sink faucets, p-trap assemblies and such when i install a new sink. .....keeps the bills paid!!!



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In alabama its fairly simple in plumbing .Work above the trap(what does that say about replacing a toilet) lol and above the cut offs or stops under the sink or lavatorys anyone can clean sewers provided they go thru threaded cleanouts or down stacks or thru the strainers without removing sink traps, outside digging is a no no <> our codes are a joke just moving to the international book if you live out in country anything goes eccept septic tank work the only inspectors are around bigger towns birmingham montgomery ,mobile huntsville and a few more the small towns have them but unless you are doing add ons or new const work you never see them unless you go to city hall buy a licence for that town and call for inspection

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tear out shower tile and replace with backerboard and new tile
That would be bad. By tearing out good union work and throwing up backerboard, you would be causing leaks which will lead to dryrot and termite damge, thereby undermining the structural integrity of the building.
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I am a Florida handyman and I have read the Florida Statutes for contractors several times. I am confused on the work that handymen are legally able to do. Is there clarification anywhere? Am I stuck to just hanging pictures for Grandma?
The term Handyman is the 1st thing that clues people into the fact you are unlicensed.

There is No provision to get licensed as a handyman at the state or local level in Florida.

If you do paint work, you need a painters license.

If you do Drywall work, you need a drywall license.

If you put down flooring other than carpet, you need a contractors license.

If you do anything electrical and charge for it, even changing a lightbulb or installing a ceiling fan you need an electrical license.

If you change a broken sprinkler head, you need either an irrigation license or a plumbers license.

If you replace a window, even size for size, you need either a contractors license or a glasiers license.

Building screen rooms require a license.

Soffit, fascia and siding require a license.

Cleaning and servicing pools requires a license.

Any roof repair or replacement requires a license.

any A/c work other than small window shakers require a license, if you work with the sealed system or refrigerant you have to be certified for use of refrigerants.

There are quite a few other things that require a license.

When the state says license, "Occupational License" does not mean you are licensed, the legislature changed the name to "Business Tax" and no your drivers license does not count and if you have a journeymans card it doesn't count either.

What type of work did you want to do?

BTW it is illegal to claim you are a contractor and to bid on jobs when you are not properly licensed.


Not much left is there?

I think you can pressure wash and pick up the landmines the dogs leave behind without a license.

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I had the same question 2 years ago when we moved to Florida. I have since figured we can do most anything as long as it is not structural, electrical, or plumbing. Really limits what is possible. And in order to do these things we need a occupational license for each. The county I live in I can paint inside and out, the next county south you need a GC license to paint.
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You are wrong, you can not do hard flooring, drywall, any framing or any plumbing work without being appropriately licensed in each of the areas you want to do work in.

Painting does not require a GC license, it is a county specialty license, although a GC license includes paintwork.

Occupational licenses no longer exist, they are called business tax, people were trying to claim they were licensed because they had an occupational license.

I see by looking up your name on the DBPR you are in the procees of getting a Registered Residential Contractors license, I applaud you for getting licensed, but until the state issues your license number, you are breaking the law by contractiing without a license.
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I'm in Florida as well, and it is pretty stiff here for sure. After Hurricane Andrew years back, they really tightened up on the construction trade down here..... you just pretty much need to stay away from any structural or "skilled" trade (Plumbing, Electrical, etc.) I do alot of interior painting, drywall, base and crown moulding, cabinetry installation, interior doors and such. I will do certain light areas of electrical and plumbing....changing out switches and outlets, light fixtures etc., and sink faucets, p-trap assemblies and such when i install a new sink. I do a lot of punch out stuff for contractors as well.....keeps the bills paid!!!
You need a Division 1 license, either RR, CR, RB, CB, RG, or CG, either that or a Carpentry license and a painting license.

You als need a Plumbing Contractors license and an Electrical contractors license.

I currently hold 2 state certified contractors licenses and will be testing next month for my Certified Plumbing Contractors License, why should I have to compete with unlicensed "Handymen"?

If you are too lazy to get properly licensed, how can anyone be sure you know what you are doing?
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Can we install :
decks
screen porch rooms
frame out an interior wall (non load bearing)
install floor tile
tear out shower tile and replace with backerboard and new tile

ETC, ETC, ETC......??????
Not legally.
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I was always told that handymen could do any electrical except for running new wire and installing new boxes. Im in Michigan does anyone know if this is correct?
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I was always told that handymen could do any electrical except for running new wire and installing new boxes. Im in Michigan does anyone know if this is correct?
In Florida only licensed electricains can do electrical work, installing or changing out light fixtures and ceiling fans is electrical work.

A handyman could probably legally change a screw in bulb abd maybe plug in lamps and christmas lights.
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Washington State defines a "Handyman" as :
"Handyman" - A contractor in this specialty must be an
individual who does all work personally without employees or other
specialty contractors. A handyman may perform more than one
unrelated specialty trade or craft provided they do all work
themselves. All work shall be limited to minor and casual work of
existing residential maintenance and repair with a total dollar value of time and materials under two thousand dollars. Work
requiring a building permit may not be done by this specialty. If
the registered contractor is a corporation or limited liability
company (LLC), one person must be identified as a handyman. Work
in this specialty may also require plumber certification per
chapter 18.106 RCW and/or an electrical license per chapter 19.28
RCW.
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Can we install :
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screen porch rooms
frame out an interior wall (non load bearing)
install floor tile
tear out shower tile and replace with backer board and new tile

ETC, ETC, ETC......??????
to install screen enclosures in the state of florida you must have at least a specialty structure license or a residental,cbc,or gc.

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