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Old 05-30-2012, 08:07 PM   #21
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[QUOTE=Jaws;1505936]Summit,

I understand your post, I've had this argument on this forum on other somewhat related issues. But the fact of the matter is, he is trying to get full-time credit for part-time work. People who put their time in, are going to take exception to that.

OP is trying to go legit, I am glad for him, and if I could offer some advice, I would. I remember giving advice to a buy claiming to be a builder on how to write a bid, or how to charge. Same as this guy, he caught a lot of heat, and I understood where the heat was coming from there too. How can you be a GC and not know how to charge? He was told to go put his time in and learn, he was a jerk.

This guy hasn't reacted nearly as bad, and I hope he gets where he wants to go. But I also understand where a guy would be pissed that this guy, in their opinion is trying to skirt the system and not put in his time, while taking cash under the table.

If I had advice for the guy, I'd give it to him, for the same reason I gave the other guy advice. I'd rather him go legit than stay like it is.[/QUOTE

I agree that everyone needs to put in their time. I'm not defending the op. However, just like the comments on taxes, etc... How many guys deduct the slow winter months when they basicly work part time if at all when they say how many years experience they have? I'm sure there are a few here that have actually done everything by the letter. Most have slipped in one way or another. So why all the holier than thou attitudes when what the op is describing is pretty common. I'm not saying it's right. Just saying many here have worked for cash, not paid their taxes on every dime, and most likely inflate their years of experience. So many of the comments posted are like the pot calling the kettle black.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:11 PM   #22
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I didn't see anyone post here who claimed this.



You do realize that there is no separation between a person's ethics/morality in their private vs. public life......no matter what Bill & the rest of the libs say.

You either have integrity or you don't.
Yeah I have integrity. I also haven't claimed every single dollar I've ever had on taxes. Have you? What about that 20.00 gift or a loan made to you by a friend or family member? I'd lay money everyone here has done something the IRS would say is illegal. So yeah I think there is a seperation there.
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Ok, Phil is on the "case" now. We've drifted to the obvious tax issues, but the answer to the OP's question should be coming shortly.

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Well I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking of no longer doing things by the books. I mean why do I pay so much money for liability insurance when I've never had a claim?

Why do I pay taxes? I could be rich or at least have absolutely zero debt.
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Well the OP has been under the table for 7 years. That's not really the same as ooops, I did a little job for cash.

Now he is still looking for ways to jump the que, or circumvent the normal ways of doing things.

See the pattern? It's his way. I've known lots of guys like this. They are just looking for the easy way. Seems to be more common in this younger generation.

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Old 05-30-2012, 08:21 PM   #26
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Summit,

I understand your post, I've had this argument on this forum on other somewhat related issues. But the fact of the matter is, he is trying to get full-time credit for part-time work. People who put their time in, are going to take exception to that.
I didn't see him say that anywhere.

He and Ron both sent me pm's, so here we go.

There are options and there are pitfalls. I would not suggest submitting 7yrs of full time experience because, obviously, it wasn't full time. But, it you submit 7yrs of part time experience you will be short the 4yrs required to apply.

Let's say.... you did have 4yrs of part time experience (8 divided by 2), and let's say your licensed friend certify's your experience, and let's say your application gets thru the initial application processing phase, and let's say your app gets pulled for a secondary review (which seems to be happening more often), the cslb is going to ask for proof of your experience. That proof will be - tax returns, pay stubs, 1099's, bank statements, work orders. We know that none of that exists (not judging here!!), so your app would be denied.

My advice.... start keeping legal track of the hours you spend in the trade, then apply. Waiting now will save you a TON of headache later.

Now, I will give you the other side of the coin... you could submit an app, your licensed friend could certify you, you could pass the exams, and you could get a license without any problems.

Question is... do you want to risk a denial that will haunt you for the life of the license you'll obtain down the road?? I say that because once you've gone to investigation, every app you submit will also go to investigation. It's a black mark you dont really want.

Thank you for not posting this in my thread. I take pride in 100's and 100's of flame free posts. This thread is still smoking. lol
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Well I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking of no longer doing things by the books. I mean why do I pay so much money for liability insurance when I've never had a claim?

Why do I pay taxes? I could be rich or at least have absolutely zero debt.

You could also have absolutely nothing.

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