Soil Conditions?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-11-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
Youngster
 
Cache's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453

Soil Conditions?


I've attached a scan of the geotechnical study on my lot. I have two questions for you guys who are more familiar with excavation.
  1. What is your overall impression of the conditions?
  2. To what extent, if any, do you think I will need foundation drainage?
My basement foundation will go down 5' below grade. Thanks for any comments.
Attached Thumbnails
soil conditions?-geotechnical-study.gif  

Cache is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 04-11-2008, 11:59 AM   #2
Pro
 
genecarp's Avatar
 
Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 5,426

Re: Soil Conditions?


no found drainage, needed
__________________
genecarp is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 01:59 PM   #3
Midnight
 
Blas's Avatar
 
Trade: Excavating, Grading, Demolition, Underground Utilities
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 177

Re: Soil Conditions?


Is it going to be a full basement or crawlspace? You will probably need to remove the silt portion from under footings but if you are going to be through the silt with your foundation then it will not be a problem. If it is a basement you will definitely need foundation drainage especially with that layer of silt water doesn't move through the silt like it does sand. Also during construction the silt will likely become unstable if you decide to leave it on site flip flop it for sand in a landscaped area. That is just my two cents.
__________________
"It is what it is"
Blas is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 04:03 PM   #4
Youngster
 
Cache's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453

Re: Soil Conditions?


Full basement. My footings are going to be around 6.5' deep which should put them in the gravel layer. Also I will be backfilling with the gravel/silt/sand mixture. Do you really think I'll have a drainage problem?
Cache is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 04:42 PM   #5
Pro
 
dayexco's Avatar
 
Trade: entrepreneur of excavating expertise
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,604

Re: Soil Conditions?


you realize just how cheap drain tile is? sump pumps are cheap, pump pits are cheap...i'd put it in myself. i live on a lake, very sandy material, my basement floor sits 6' over normal high lake elevation. in the flood of 97, the water table came up through the cracks in the floor, being it was so high off the lake, sandy soil....the builder didn't put any drain tile around it...i bought all new sheetrock/carpet. ended up with 4" of water in my basement. the city had us plug our floor drains because all the sewer mains were being inundated due to the flooding, so we couldn't let it go down the floor drain
__________________
someday, i'll be as patient as Nick.
dayexco is online now  
Old 04-11-2008, 05:37 PM   #6
Youngster
 
Cache's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453

Re: Soil Conditions?


Don't know how far above the water table I am, but I'm on a hillside about 500' off the valley floor. Went down 11' with no sign of moisture.

But you're right. Drain tile isn't expensive. Probably worth the cost. It's just the little things like that are gonna nickel and dime me to death.
Cache is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 05:39 PM   #7
Pro
 
genecarp's Avatar
 
Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 5,426

Re: Soil Conditions?


o brother
__________________
genecarp is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 06:43 PM   #8
Vagitarian
 
rino1494's Avatar
 
Trade: site and utility contractor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, PA
Posts: 3,092
Send a message via AIM to rino1494

Re: Soil Conditions?


Pay now or pay later.
__________________
Life is hard. It is harder when you are stupid

Uncle Sam wants YOU....to speak ENGLISH
rino1494 is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 06:59 PM   #9
Contractor
 
tgeb's Avatar
 
Trade: Excavation, Foundation, Concrete
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,276

Re: Soil Conditions?


It won't be too cheap to dig up the foundation and add drainage in 2 years.

Put it in now, here it's code for basements.

Where are you located?
__________________
Tom

www.gebcon.com
tgeb is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 07:00 PM   #10
Youngster
 
Cache's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453

Re: Soil Conditions?


Northern Utah
Cache is offline  
Old 04-11-2008, 07:39 PM   #11
Pro
 
denick's Avatar
 
Trade: excavating / concrete / masonry
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW, CT
Posts: 2,452

Re: Soil Conditions?


Ca,

There is no code requirement in Utah for drainage or damp / waterproofing?
__________________
Nick

"Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving" Albert Einstein
denick is offline  
Old 04-12-2008, 12:44 AM   #12
Member
 
cdub's Avatar
 
Trade: excavating
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: KS
Posts: 65

Re: Soil Conditions?


Around here we almost never encounter a water table. Soil is usually a heavy clay or shale. Ground water is not a problem, but EVERYBODY waterproofs (tile, rock, pump) even walkout basements (w/o pump) its a nothing cost that saves big problems.
__________________
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
cdub is offline  
Old 04-12-2008, 11:42 AM   #13
PRO
 
Blackhammer's Avatar
 
Trade: CGC Concrete
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 130

Re: Soil Conditions?


Here in florida it hard to dig 3 feet without hitting water. No basements here.
Blackhammer is offline  
Old 04-12-2008, 12:10 PM   #14
Pro
 
cleveman's Avatar
 
Trade: custom home building
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 1,795

Re: Soil Conditions?


If you put in tile and all is well after 20 years or so, you can dig it up and sell it on e-bay. Especially the t's and crosses are going to be worth a lot in the future.
cleveman is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crawl Space Ventilation Ed the Roofer Roofing 2 11-27-2008 11:15 AM
New AIA Supplemental General Conditions thom General Discussion 2 04-07-2008 08:31 PM
Ground rods for soil with bedrock MKamis Electrical 5 03-08-2007 09:47 PM
Work Order Terms and conditions jmejio Business 5 03-18-2006 05:34 AM
Wording for Terms and Conditions jmejio Flooring 0 03-11-2006 08:03 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?