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Youngster
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
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Soil Conditions?
I've attached a scan of the geotechnical study on my lot. I have two questions for you guys who are more familiar with excavation.
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Pro
Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: Soil Conditions?
no found drainage, needed
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Midnight
Trade: Excavating, Grading, Demolition, Underground Utilities
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Minnesota
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Is it going to be a full basement or crawlspace? You will probably need to remove the silt portion from under footings but if you are going to be through the silt with your foundation then it will not be a problem. If it is a basement you will definitely need foundation drainage especially with that layer of silt water doesn't move through the silt like it does sand. Also during construction the silt will likely become unstable if you decide to leave it on site flip flop it for sand in a landscaped area. That is just my two cents.
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Youngster
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Full basement. My footings are going to be around 6.5' deep which should put them in the gravel layer. Also I will be backfilling with the gravel/silt/sand mixture. Do you really think I'll have a drainage problem?
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Pro
Trade: entrepreneur of excavating expertise
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Soil Conditions?
you realize just how cheap drain tile is? sump pumps are cheap, pump pits are cheap...i'd put it in myself. i live on a lake, very sandy material, my basement floor sits 6' over normal high lake elevation. in the flood of 97, the water table came up through the cracks in the floor, being it was so high off the lake, sandy soil....the builder didn't put any drain tile around it...i bought all new sheetrock/carpet. ended up with 4" of water in my basement. the city had us plug our floor drains because all the sewer mains were being inundated due to the flooding, so we couldn't let it go down the floor drain
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Youngster
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Don't know how far above the water table I am, but I'm on a hillside about 500' off the valley floor. Went down 11' with no sign of moisture.
But you're right. Drain tile isn't expensive. Probably worth the cost. It's just the little things like that are gonna nickel and dime me to death. |
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Pro
Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: Soil Conditions?
o brother
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Pay now or pay later.
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Contractor
Trade: Excavation, Foundation, Concrete
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maryland
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Re: Soil Conditions?
It won't be too cheap to dig up the foundation and add drainage in 2 years.
Put it in now, here it's code for basements. Where are you located? |
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Youngster
Trade: Builder / Consultant / Designer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 453
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Northern Utah
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Pro
Trade: excavating / concrete / masonry
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW, CT
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Ca,
There is no code requirement in Utah for drainage or damp / waterproofing?
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Member
Trade: excavating
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: KS
Posts: 65
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Around here we almost never encounter a water table. Soil is usually a heavy clay or shale. Ground water is not a problem, but EVERYBODY waterproofs (tile, rock, pump) even walkout basements (w/o pump) its a nothing cost that saves big problems.
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PRO
Trade: CGC Concrete
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 130
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Re: Soil Conditions?
Here in florida it hard to dig 3 feet without hitting water. No basements here.
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Pro
Trade: custom home building
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 1,795
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Re: Soil Conditions?
If you put in tile and all is well after 20 years or so, you can dig it up and sell it on e-bay. Especially the t's and crosses are going to be worth a lot in the future.
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