Let Me Hear Your Ideas.

dayexco

as you know, we picked up 5 miles of 6" rural water line to install. i "know" how i want to do this, but i'd like to hear any of you guy's ideas/opinons. we have to pick up all the pipe at the water system's yard, haul, string, and install. they're very reluctant to allow us to take more than 3,000 feet at a time because of problems past with vandalism to the pipe. i'd like to have 3 guys doing nothing but hauling, stringing, shoving pipe together....the way they want to stage things, i don't think i can make that work. ideas?

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Framer53

Was that specified in the bid package?

dayexco

this "bid package"....was 3 pages long, including the proposal itself, specs, everything....it boils down to everybody being straight up, accommodating each other, getting the job done in a timely, workable manner for both parties. in reality, i can do anything i want...that's not my desire, my foot's in their door now, and i think it can turn into a great customer for us in the end depending on how things go. i just want a well executed project.

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rino1494

Have 1 load there the day before you start. Send 2 guys first thing in the morning with a trailer for a load. The 3rd guy can help in the morning to get you going. When they get back, all 3 unload the pipe and 2 stay to lay pipe, while the 3rd guy goes back for more and keeps shuttling.

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dayexco

jason, my thoughts exactly!!!. hopefully, other than a few instances...nobody will be down in the ditch, will all be barred together, and barred down the hole. you've just confirmed what i think needs to happen...thanks for pushing a young man's blood into an old man's veins.

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JDavis21835

What kind of pipe are we talking about? What kind of vandalism has been experienced? Maybe they would let you stage the job out if you put yourself on the hook for replacing any pipe that gets vandalized? Cant say I have seen anything like that done here, unless it was done by an upset member of another company. I guess id like a little more on the type of pipe, and how you are going to stage it. Most of the time we have ductile, which we usually have to bag. So we stretch out enough to have the crew get going in the morning. Then the loader man continues to stage pipe out in between bringing the hoe sand, and backfilling the trench.

dayexco

thanks for response

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rino1494

Just wondering Gene, do you have a fusion machine ?

BTW: Did you ever think up anything on those plans I mailed you ?

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tgeb

If they are supplying, the pipe can you make them supply it to you at the site?

Since they are the ones concerned about vandalism, why should you pay the price for not having pipe at your disposal to install as needed?

As you state, it's their pipe, how do you know it does not have holes in it already?

Maybe they will bring you what you need each day on trailers, take the excess back each night.

Actually, as I am thinking it through, why not stage pipe on a trailer, use it as needed, take the trailer home at night, so no pipe is left on site for the vandals.

If need be, rent an extra trailer that can be loaded while the other is on site.

You could work this to have an endless supply of pipe.

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dayexco

thank you tom, i REALLY appreciate you taking time to gimme ideas!!!

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tgeb

Can you take it back to their yard?

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dayexco

i could, but that would be a headache too....we're working sunup/sundown....vandalism occurs, it'll be the little pipe we have strung, hanging out of the ditch..

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scrapecc

Vandalism is a bitch, a buddy of mine's family has one of the largest excavating companies in western South Dakota. A few years back i remember they had someone get into one of thier haul trucks and run over a 100,000 dollars worth of pipe, As far as i know nobody ever got caught for the deed. Would it be worth having any kind of security overnight? Then you could just have all the material on site period. I don't know how many guys you have on staff, but I have seen this done to also protect equipment. How much do windows cost in excavators? Just a though however unconventional it may be.

backhoe1

Gene- Is your boat long enough to haul that pipe? may need one if it doesn't stop raining.

dayexco

isn't this something? i'm so FREAKIN sick of this crap i could cry....oh well, giving me a chance to rebuild our sand bucket.

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nedly05

What are the conditions like? Are you getting roughly the same amount distance each day? After a few days, if your distances are somewhat consistant you could try bringing the same amount of pipe as you used the day before, thereby minimizing the amount that you protect/take back to the yard that night.

propertyone

Can you load a trailer/ truck with a the days worth of pipe. Do you have the room to work right off the trailer/ truck. Two guys in the hole laying pipe , one you hooking up pipe clamp / moving truck / trailer down with the pipe? Or two guys working with the machine laying stung out pipe one guy with another machine stringing pipe , then dropping back to backfill. What size machine are you going to be digging with?