How/what To Charge

jojo

ok guys, what and how do you guys charge in your area,,
do you charge by cubic yard,,by the hour,,by the hour and what machine you are using??? I would just like a general Idea,,,

jmic

Excavators 135.00/ hr
Tri-axles 85.00
Imported materials by the ld. depending what it is.
Exported materials by the yd.
I'd tell you more but then I'd have to deep 6 ya!

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rino1494

It all depends on what size machine, your area and your overhead.

For out site work jobs, we figure out our quanities, which machine would be best to use and how long it will take to move the material using a hourly rate.

For our house work, we charge by the hour and imported/exported material is by the load.

What piece of equipment on you inquiring about ????

rino1494

Just curious to what size machine you are using that you get $135/hr ???


In my area, you have to fight to get $70/hr for a tri-axle.

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jmic

We have 2 excavators which I charge the same for both:
Kobelco 200SRL
Kobelco 115SR
Next week we'll be getting a Kobelco 35SR which I plan to bill out at $100/hr.
What do you think?

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rino1494

Well, you are in CT and i know that prices up there are crazy. I honestly don't know how you can charge the same price for 2 different size excavators. For our Kobelco 200 Mark IV, we get $110/hr and our Cat 315 we get $90. This is for doing housework since we work on T & M. When bidding site and pipe work, we bump it up a bit.

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chrisherk

jmic, I have three ?'s for you. what would you use the 200 over the 115 for?
what do you like about the kobelco's? and, when you say you bill out, is that t+m or bidhr or ar they the same? wow thats good money for a mini

chris

rino1494

The Kobelco's are good machines. I built a entire 40 lot development with that single machine. I sloped banks, built the ponds, cut and fill the roads and I installed 3,100 linear ft of 8" sewer line with it. Depths varied from 10ft - 19ft. The only problem with us is that the nearest dealer is 2 hours away and getting parts is a big hassle for us.

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chrisherk

I just asked jmic a similar question. how come you have 2 excavators similar size? are they really that different, or do you have enough work to keep them busy? I know some guys around here that work by themselves and they have 3 excavators. Thanks, chris

jmic

Most of our work is in the Greenwich area, BIG $$$. Our 200 has a thump, sometimes we'll do the tear down, but usually sub that part of the job out. We also have a 6' gradall bucket for it, thats handy for stripping topsoil, or doing footing drains. The customers are interested in the total package price, and most of the sites have issues, so prices are what they are and preety much in line with other contractors in the area. And for the most part with exception of the thumb or 6' bucket the 115 will go in and dig the same cellar or whatever we happen to be doing. Granted it may take a little longer, but it all washes out in the end.

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jmic

When I quote the jobs I figure the amount of time I feel different aspects of the job will take, multiply it by the hourly rate for the machine and they get a fixed price. With the exclusion of unforseeable circumstances ie.. ledge, excessive boulders or ground water... then the change orders come out Because of the small sites we usually work on I like our machines which are all short radius swings. I can get right up to a fence or the house and swing around with out the machine hitting anything behind me.

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jmic

They are quite different actually, 22tons / 16tons , you really notice the difference when you start handling ledge or boulders. Plus the reach of the bigger machine is nice on certain jobs. We do a couple of starts a month, so we're pretty busy. We sub out our machine moves. The 35sr I'll move with my 1 ton, so that'll be handy for getting back to do the onsite utility's.

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rino1494

I think I am gonna relocate our business to CT.....lol

As told to me by another local excavator about his machines........."The typical homeowner doesn't know the difference between a 318 and a 312."

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