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bobbyg

tomorrow will be my 3rd day hauling for a contractor...so far i've hauled around 70 yards...both driveways are pretty tight and im not sure if a bigger truck would even fit, especially where im dumping...im using my F-550 (4 yards) and he's loading me up...im charging on both ends and its working out pretty good...its about a 15 min run each way

what do you guys charge for fill delivered????... or is it job by job depending on circumstances...do you always get paid to get it off your hands?

over the past year i've made several FREE deliveries bc i couldn't find anyone to pay for the fill and needed to get rid of it...what do you guys do in this case?

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dayexco

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what do you guys charge for fill delivered????... or is it job by job depending on circumstances...do you always get paid to get it off your hands?

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what we charge probably doesn't make any sense to the area that you're from. hopefully by now...."end of the 3rd day".....you know how much you need to make your operation work
i'm not trying to be the smart ass here, but from what i've seen in the posts on this forum, i charge considerably less than other posters here, if nothing else, it's based on from where i'm geographically located. you never know, net wise......i might be way ahead of them. best advice i can give you, is learn/know your costs before you go much farther, and bid/bill accordingly. never let somebody that's hiring you dictate to you how much they're going to pay you. "unless it's greater than what you feel you need to make a fair profit". as you can see, there is no "magic number" we can tell you to plug into your bid.

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PipeGuy

What do you charge?

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bobbyg

$250 for the contractor (he hires me by the day) and $25 per load where im dumping...its been $450 for the day, about $50 in fuel

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tgeb

What would you have to charge the contractor per day if you were not getting $25/load?

That is the number I would try to reach for.
$450/day is probably a fair day rate for that truck, even though you are small, most bigger trucks might not be able to do the job, you should use that as a selling point.

Did you arrange the paying dump-site or did the contractor? If you did that money should be free and clear above what your figuring for your daily rate.

See, if the contractor was paying you $450/day, and you found away to get $25/load, and a close dump-site, now you would be looking at $650/day, which could make you sit a little higher in the seat.

At this point you are working for this contractor at a $250/day rate. If you had to haul to a site that was not paying you would barely cover expenses.

We often have to haul material to a pay dump site, and pay by the load to get rid of excess soils.

Heck, a lot of guys here would charge the builder a dump fee and then charge the homeowner a delivery fee and really get paid both ways!

I know it's tough starting out, but don't sell yourself short.

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bobbyg

tgeb, yeah i may have underbid this for the contractor a bit...but it is winter and there is no snow...and i already had been contacted by the h/o needing the fill...i do see what your saying

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tgeb

Yep, been there Bobby. That's why I added the line about tough starting out, sometimes you have to price things as tight as possible to get work.

Went by your web site the other day, NICE truck!

Stick with it, you'll do well.

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rino1494

Well, we charge $130 per tri-axle road. As far as getting rid of dirt, we have no problem with that. There is always someone looking for dirt. Most don't want to pay, so I say ok and go somewhere else. Most of them will come back looking for you and decide that they will pay.

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jmic

What's a tri-axle road? Must be a Pa. kind of thing.

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bobbyg

yeah, rino...ive been noticing that too...one guy told me i was nuts charging a delivery fee, i told him the fill is free but the delivery is not

and how many yards in a tri? is it 25?

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jmic

Usually 16 - 18 cu. yds .

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bobbyg

so 18 yards of fill for $130...ok so thats about $7/yard...and im charging this customer about $5/yard...close enough, so in the future that is what i'll try and stick with $25 per load of fill...

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denick

bobbyg,

You live near Boston MA right?

Things are expensive there aren't they?

Are contractors busy?

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bobbyg

yes its expensive here compared to elsewhere in the country...so i have to take that into account too

contractors are still busy and they're still working, the mild winter helps in that aspect...overall its slowed down to a more reasonable pace, economy is well, its just the real estate market taking a beating...some contractors ive talked to welcome the slowdown

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denick

bobbyg,

Off the subject, but you said you are hauling 4 cy a load. By any measure earth weighs 2,800 to 3,400 pounds to a yard. Are you able to put 11,000 to 13,000 pounds on that 550 Ford legally? you have awfull tall sideboards on that truck.

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rino1494

15 yds

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bobbyg

den, i dont fill up above the steel bed, maybe a bit...but my #'s must be off...

the way i was calculating my hauling weight of fill is 1 yard = 3/4 tons...which translates into approx 6K#'s for 4 yards, which keeps me under the 17500 GVWR rating

am i wrong on this?...

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rino1494

1 yd of typical dirt, depending on moisture content, weighs about 3,000 lbs/yd. 4 yards of dirt is equal to around 12,000 lbs/6 tons. A tri-axle's payload is around 22 tons. 44,000 lbs divided by 3,000 = 14.67 yds.

I think you are over estimating how much you are really hauling. You are most likely hauling only 2 yds. I've loaded 1 ton dumps with a 300 size machine and could only put 1/2 bucket on.

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bobbyg

rino, maybe i am overestimating...

since the dump was full and its a 4 yard dump body i was calculating it like that...i've also made a few small deliveries last fall but i cant remember exatly how much, but i thought i loaded up 4 yards...

the dirt im currently hauling is very dry very clean fill...sandy clay almost

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rino1494

Well, dry sand weighs about 2,600 lbs per LCY. 2,600 x 4yds = 10,400. Which is about 5 tons. This still puts you over your legal weight. The capacity of the body may be 4 yds, but that is just a measurement. How much weight can you actually haul and still be legal ?

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