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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
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Digging Through Cap Rock
Looks like we are about to start a job to dig a two acre lake. Looking at the soils report, cap rock is about 10 feet down. Plans call for 15 ft depth.
Any dug through cap rock before, and using what? I was going to put a JD 330 on the job, but I think I would need a machine with a shorter arm |
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Member
Trade: Site Development, Trucking, Demolition,Environmental maint.& restoration
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: S W Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Cap rock sucks thats for sure, but with the right machine you can be fairly productive ( as far as digging in rock is concerned ).
The last time I got into cap rock it was about three foot thick it was slow going but I had a JD450 digging it and it wasnt horrible but not fast by any means. just take your time and try not to overwork the machines capacity and youll be ok. hope you gotta good rock bucket a GP wont hold up long. If the rocks not all that thick you may be alright. Good luck |
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Pro
Trade: excavating / concrete / masonry
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Location: NW, CT
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Hi SDG,
Welcome to E&SW forum of Contractortalk.com.We don't have cap rock in CT. As far as I know. Stop in the CHAT ROOM at 9PM.
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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
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Location: Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Ironman was right...started using the kobelco 350 couldn't handle it
Had to get the Hitachi 850...damn thing is expensive Slow going.
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Please define cap rock.
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Pro
Trade: Handyman Services
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: S. Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Basically, Caprock is fossilized coral substrate......pretty much like trying to scratch through granite. It's all over at different depths down here in S. Florida.......used to excavate swimming pools years back, and it can be a real nightmare. Some guy's actually carry a wrecking ball with them to pound the heck out of the rock before trying to excavate it. They use charges at the rock pits to blow it out before dragline........bad juju!!
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Pro
Trade: entrepreneur of excavating expertise
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
what's a rock?
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Midnight
Trade: Excavating, Grading, Demolition, Underground Utilities
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Minnesota
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
If its like granite I would just blast it and be done with it. We use a D8 with a big ripper for limestone but that sounds pretty hard core. The one thing I know about granite is that you are not going to rip granite around here, it gets blasted period.
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DRIFTWOOD
Trade: GEN CONTR.
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Location: Bay Area
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
In a kitchen
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Re: Digging Through Cap RockQuote:
I agree, blasting or hammering is the way to go.
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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Really slow going, but its fun!!!!
except when you blow the main jack started with Hitachi 800, now using 850 |
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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
finally after three months
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Contractor
Trade: Excavation, Foundation, Concrete
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maryland
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Looks nice, nothing quite like a 3 month project.
![]() Only thing is how do we know it 15' deep? Could be 2' it would look the same from here. |
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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
Scouts honor!!
on the Hitachi's stick its 14 feet from bushing to bushing, with the bucket its another 4' I found one picture with the boom extended. |
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Contractor
Trade: Excavation, Foundation, Concrete
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maryland
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
OK! Looks deep alright, well in 2 spots any way.
![]() Just curios....what is this pond for, and what did you do with all the material? Haul it off site? Nice clean work. |
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New Guy
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 21
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
2 reasons: Its actually a retention pond per the design, for a cemetery! and to use the material as backfill to bring up the elevation since the water table is so high here. It would be easier to sell the material and bring in better suitable material for the fill, but due to county regs, you would have to get a mining permit to do so (it could take another six months.)
we are waiting on decision to crush the rock to use for road final. |
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Member
Trade: Student/Heavy Civil/Commetical/Estimating
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 54
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Re: Digging Through Cap Rock
I would really like to pursure something in excavation.
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