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Trade: excavating / concrete / masonry
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW, CT
Posts: 2,452
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Buying???
I'm down to the serious part of "maybe" buying the CAT 314 we've been renting.
The economic outlook scares me from the people I talk to around our area. Well I guess I needed one more thing to torment myself about. It's been a long time since I bought new. Used equipment has done the job just fine.
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MFWIC
Trade: house painter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: alta california
Posts: 490
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Re: Buying???
Denick,
if you NEED it, gotta have it, and it will make you money, buy it. You might even try to negotiate with them for a great price. But I can't see that a lot of construction equipment won't be real cheap, soon. r |
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Cat385
Trade: excavating
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 161
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Re: Buying???
Denick I am sure you all ready know what I will say. If you have the work I would say
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Contractor
Trade: Excavation, Foundation, Concrete
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,271
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Re: Buying???
Do you have future work on the books yet?
Are your typical customers still signing new work? As far as the economy I see it as we are closing in on the bottom of this downturn. Real estate values will continue to drop some as more places come on the market, the Fed has already lowered rates to help get things going again, but it may take time. Next year is an election year and no major policy will be done on anything, so all will be pretty much the same as it has been for years. The only big damper on the economy is fuel prices which, if we have a warmer than average winter (which is predicted here), fuel will stabilize or come down. The equipment manufacturers are trying to sell off inventory and are offering good deals and financing is low. (I am looking at adding a machine this year due to the good deal I can get now) The thing is you will have a 4 or 5 year note and no one can forecast what will be the conditions in 20 or 30 months from now. I know that in the more affluent areas work will continue to be found for those that can adapt to it if needed. Where I am it is very recession proof because there is so much Government spending. But I have weathered a couple very lean times due to recession, so I know it can get bad. Quite frankly, I know it is slow in a lot of places now but I don't see that the economy is tanking, and I think growth will pick back up soon. There is a lot of "doomsday" stuff on the news....but that's how they get people to watch, no bad news = no viewers, who wants to here that all is well? Bottom line is, can you get a real good deal on this and do you have/can you get the future work to keep it busy? That's it in a nutshell. My longest post so far I'm sure. I hope everyone enjoyed that. ![]() Where's Pipeguy when you need him? |
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Re: Buying???
Just think Nick, if things get tight, you can just sell it. We all know how those Cats hold their resale value.
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Trade: manager of excavation division
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: danbury,ct.
Posts: 3,660
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Re: Buying???
Nick you should have rented a Kobelco, you'd be getting a much Sweeter deal now.
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Captain of the Titanic
Trade: Asphalt Paving,Excavating, Masonry
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Westport, Connecticut
Posts: 692
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Re: Buying???
Nick, all that cash burning a hole in your pocket?
I dont know on the new / used thing. When I buy new I always get a buyers remorse fit. Then, if I buy too used I get pissed I didnt go newer. I have always liked buying light hour rental, demo, or turn ins like one year old. This way you get a fairly new piece of iron at a great price and the biggest hit to its devaluement is past. And the technoligy doesnt change that fast from 1 year to another. But if your so flush with money you dont know what to do with it, I will send you a self addressed envelope. Small bills please.
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Trade: manager of excavation division
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: danbury,ct.
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Captain of the Titanic
Trade: Asphalt Paving,Excavating, Masonry
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Westport, Connecticut
Posts: 692
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Re: Buying???
H.O. Penn can use a beating. Man, do I have a couple of stories.
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Trade: Construction, Landscaping
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 96
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Re: Buying???
[quote=Vinny;306628]I dont know on the new / used thing. When I buy new I always get a buyers remorse fit. Then, if I buy too used I get pissed I didnt go newer.
Vinny said that well! Running a small business you're always gambling when making a major purchase, but I would lean toward buying it new. |
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