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tile mason
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Screws In Flue Pipe
I had a new furnace installed in attic and condensor outside.
I went upstairs after they left and had to silver tape and duct seal the bottom myself. Then I noticed there are 1/4" screws in the flue pipe system. I thought it was against code to put screws in flue. Am I wrong?
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
I'd wait for the HVAC guys, but I think you're wrong, it's no screws in dryer vents, because of the lint, I'm not sure if that's a code or just common knowledge.
What else could you use that would stand up to the heat. .
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Trade: Plumbing & HVAC, I specialize in Hydronic Heating and more specifically in Radiant Floor Heating
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Re: Screws In Flue PipeQuote:
Is this B vent or just single wall pipe? OR PVC or CPVC? |
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
I always thought you had to install at least 1 so as to keep the pipe from coming apart
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Trade: General contractor
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Re: Screws In Flue PipeQuote:
Our hvac guys use 3 screws per connection in single wall. |
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
3 evenly spaced screws for b-vent. Obviously can't be done with dryer vent/
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New Guy
Trade: Heating, Ventilation, Cooling & Sheet Metal
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Alberta
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
B-Vent requires screws as well. They are a special screw though, shorter, so as not to pierce the inner liner. Try to always place AT LEAST two screws opposite each other. One is really insuffiecient to prevent a pipe from coming apart. Best practice is minimum of 3 up to about six inch.
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New Guy
Trade: Heating, Ventilation, Cooling & Sheet Metal
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Alberta
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
The 1/4" hole could have been from combustion analysis. Not sure of the code in your state, but it may be required when commissioning new equipment. They may have forgotten to place the Foil/aluminum tape over the holes once completed.
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Trade: Plumbing & HVAC, I specialize in Hydronic Heating and more specifically in Radiant Floor Heating
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
Last I knew screws were NOT allowed for B vent in any shape or form. Can anyone cite the code where they are required?
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Professional Instigator
Trade: Design Build Remodeling Contractor DC MD
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
Screws are not required in DC.
In fact there are brands that tell you not to insert screws in them. I think the biggest mfg fear is you will probably puncture the liner. There are atleast two companies that sell a snap together system. If a screw has to be inserted I use a 3/8 screw and tape it. |
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New Guy
Trade: Heating, Ventilation, Cooling & Sheet Metal
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Location: Alberta
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Re: Screws In Flue PipeQuote:
I still haven't reached the "Critical 15 post minimum" so I'll be unable to paste links. It's out there if you look. Even in the states it appears as though manufacturers tested item(s) IS the code above authority having jurisdiction.,
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HVAC Tech, NATE certified
Trade: Hvac technician. Boehmer Heating
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Pgh, Pa.
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Re: Screws In Flue Pipe
we aways use screws in single wall paipe, just to keep it from slipping apart. Even the best tape loosens after awhile (UL 181 tape). If anything puts pressure on it tape alone isnt enough.
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