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Old 10-26-2009, 11:06 PM   #121
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They will no longer manufacture equipment that will use R22 manufactured after Jan 1, R22 will still be manufactured and available.

How long has R12 been out of production?

I can still buy R12 and it isn't cheap but it is still affordable.
I'm talking about if you have a problem with an existing R-22 system. You can still buy replacement compressors, evaps, for R22 after Jan 1. The price per pound is similar to 410a but you do not need to change out any parts to use this refrigerant. It is also almost identical pressures and temp as 22.

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Old 10-27-2009, 01:28 AM   #122
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ppl think hvac is free ...something for nothing

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I had an HVAC tech come over tonight and he filled my unit with 5lbs of freon. He checked my 2 units to make sure they were both full. He was here for about an hour and charged me $200. Is this a fair price?

He said the cost of freon has risen dramatically over the past several months. How much do you guys charge for a similar service, or what price per lb do you charge? I look forward to your comments.
it should have been around 4-500
a trip charge.
a service call fee
a epa charge
r-22 under 8-10 lbs should be at a higher rate smaller amount.
first hour and 1/2 for the other unit at least.

yeah, you ripped him off and you should be sending him and additional 200 dollars with your two unit home.

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Old 10-27-2009, 04:50 AM   #123
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For after jan 1 when R-22 will be harder to come by and more expensive. Also then you will not have to switch to 410 like affordable 7 said.
So many confuse the end of production on new equipment to use R22, with the end of R22 production.

R22 will still be made.

There is no direct drop in for R22. You must remove all the old R22 refrigerant.
Virtually all the replacement gasses have glide. And many have capacity reductions when you use them.
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:12 AM   #124
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I'm talking about if you have a problem with an existing R-22 system. You can still buy replacement compressors, evaps, for R22 after Jan 1. The price per pound is similar to 410a but you do not need to change out any parts to use this refrigerant. It is also almost identical pressures and temp as 22.
Why not just use R22?
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:14 AM   #125
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it should have been around 4-500
a trip charge.
a service call fee
a epa charge
r-22 under 8-10 lbs should be at a higher rate smaller amount.
first hour and 1/2 for the other unit at least.

yeah, you ripped him off and you should be sending him and additional 200 dollars with your two unit home.

A trip charge + a service call???

What is an EPA charge, do you send it o the EPA or is it just an additional charge that you make people think is being tacked on by the government?
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:50 AM   #126
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A trip charge + a service call???

What is an EPA charge, do you send it o the EPA or is it just an additional charge that you make people think is being tacked on by the government?

This is the same guy, mind you that tells me in another thread that the rest of us are doing customers WRONG by selling them matched systems.

But he has no problem ripping them a new one when it leaks.

200 was cheap but to make up BS charges....well that just seems typical for this guy anyway so I guess we should all listen to him. The rest of us pale in comparison to the pro.


btw walley this isnt a dig at you....just so u know ;-)

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Old 10-28-2009, 04:22 PM   #127
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Gamebird...the pressures for 410a and r-22 are most certaianly not almost identical in fact they are at minimum doubled ..big deal w/ a resi condensor
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:43 PM   #128
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Gamebird.

Are you thinking of R422D?
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R422d........... how much per pound! you may be on to something here!
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:57 PM   #130
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R422d........... how much per pound! you may be on to something here!
Don't know how much it goes for, per pound.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...FgVqRlSskbITlA


Its one of the many replacement gasses available to replace R22.

Not worthwhile to convert to any of the replacement gasses in my opinion.
But, lots of people/techs. Are reluctant to learn how to work with R410A.
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