Price to fill R-22 Freon - Page 5 - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Bearclawz · 08-19-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggersJunior

I had an HVAC tech come over tonight and he filled my unit with 5lbs of freon. He checked my 2 units to make sure they were both full. He was here for about an hour and charged me $200. Is this a fair price?

He said the cost of freon has risen dramatically over the past several months. How much do you guys charge for a similar service, or what price per lb do you charge? I look forward to your comments.

We charge 9.00 a pound, purchase 30 pd jugs for 189.00.

mo-flo · 08-30-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggersJunior

I had an HVAC tech come over tonight and he filled my unit with 5lbs of freon. He checked my 2 units to make sure they were both full. He was here for about an hour and charged me $200. Is this a fair price?

He said the cost of freon has risen dramatically over the past several months. How much do you guys charge for a similar service, or what price per lb do you charge? I look forward to your comments.

so you have 2 units that were checked and it was 5 pnds. between both of them?,.....you got a good price for that repair.

mo-flo · 08-30-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by flashheatingand

I think you need to look up the definition of friend

. If it were my best friend's parents, I would have went out there and charged them a case of beer.

Seriously, with cell phones, e-mail, microsoft office, ...etc. It is a lot easier for a person to run his own one man shop, eliminating many expenses (I am not eliminating licenses, insurance,...etc.), so that you do not have to charge the rates you are talking about.

Hey, this is a free country, you charge as much as you want. I certainly don't have the right answer on how much to charge. But, if you charge too much today, it is likely there will be no tomorrow.

I can tell you one thing from experience is that you CAN go OUT of business by not charging enough.......

mo-flo · 08-30-2009, 09:20 PM

some things i would like to state here is that sometimes the leak isn't found.....then is customer willing to pay for that labor?,.....also,it is not uncommon to find resi. units holding 10 pounds or more of refrigerant.....and lastly,....in hvac trade the workload is seasonal,so a guy has to account for that when pricing his services....one more thing before i go,this is a free country for all parties involved,the customer and contractor....one has right to use whoever for their service provider,the other may charge what he pleases for his services he offers...

mo-flo · 08-30-2009, 09:25 PM

alot of variables with OP question,.....but IMO he got a good deal and i'm not just saying that.,.....

cralx2k · 09-01-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggersJunior

flashheatingand-

How much does freon cost per lb? How much would it cost you to buy the green bottle of R-22 freon?

30lb $170.00 at Grainger

bwalley · 09-01-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearclawz

We charge 9.00 a pound, purchase 30 pd jugs for 189.00.

I doubt you will be in business for very long.

Bearclawz · 09-02-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bwalley

I doubt you will be in business for very long.

Our company has only been in business since 1947, so I think we'll be allright.Thanks for your concern though. At this point we dont feel like ripping people off with outrageous prices for r-22, we still make a profit of 100$ a jug.So if you want to keep sticking it to your customer and they are willing to pay it, then by all means make what you can.

flashheatingand · 09-02-2009, 07:22 PM

100.00 a jug and you have been in business since 1947? You must go through them like cans of Tuna. I try to keep expenses down for customers as much as possible, and, I think the going rate seems high. But, even I have to wonder about your prices.

To those whom I think charge a lot, I don't intend to offend, I want to make things so that the customer isn't scared to call me. Sure, there are things I probably should do differently, but that's another topic. Just for the record, I never "outed" the wholesale price of refrigerant. Although we may differ on things, our costs stay inside of the family.

bwalley · 09-02-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearclawz

Our company has only been in business since 1947, so I think we'll be allright.Thanks for your concern though. At this point we dont feel like ripping people off with outrageous prices for r-22, we still make a profit of 100$ a jug.So if you want to keep sticking to your customer and they are willing to pay it then by all means make what you can.

You said you buy it for $189 a jug and sell it for $9 a lb, so your gross mark up is $81 per jug, that is if taxes are included in the $189, if not you are making even less.

There are other costs involved with the R22, such as picking it up, and slippage, because if you are being honest and charge your clients for the exact amount of refrigerant you add (no rounding up or guessing) you lose some refrigereant everytime you hook up a jug and charge a system.

If you choose to give away your products that is fine, you must be making your money somewhere else then which is fine.

You have no idea what I charge for my products and services, yet you want to accuse me of sticking it to my clients???

NickTech · 09-04-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalley

I doubt you will be in business for very long.

back in the early 90's we charged $11/lb, but 22 was $45 a cylander cant see anything less than $80/lb these days

JerryRiggin · 09-05-2009, 05:34 PM

BiggersJunior, a Jug of R22 (30 lb) wholesales for $150. It works out to be $5/lb. I'd normally charge $10-20/lb. and my service call is $75/hr. So, Do you think the Tech was fair? Probably, he was fair if he is working for a HVAC company. As far as all the other contractors that charges $75-200/lb., you guys are probably the contractors that was featured on Dateline NBC for cheating consumers.

beenthere · 09-05-2009, 06:42 PM

If a contractor charges a hundred bucks for a pound of R22.
He doesn't have to sell parts to customers that they don't need.
He makes enough without stealing.

bwalley · 09-05-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryRiggin

BiggersJunior, a Jug of R22 (30 lb) wholesales for $150. It works out to be $5/lb. I'd normally charge $10-20/lb. and my service call is $75/hr. So, Do you think the Tech was fair? Probably, he was fair if he is working for a HVAC company. As far as all the other contractors that charges $75-200/lb., you guys are probably the contractors that was featured on Dateline NBC for cheating consumers.

If an A/C Contractor is expensive, that does not mean they are cheating consumers.

If I sell a client 2 lbs of R22 for $200 a lb as long as I put in 2 lbs of R 22 I am not cheating a consumer, I am just expensive.

You are free to charge whatever you want for R22, so is evryone else, if you want to sell it cheaper than other guys, that is fine but to accuse someone of cheating consumers because they are more expensive than you is BS.

Bearclawz · 09-06-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalley

If an A/C Contractor is expensive, that does not mean they are cheating consumers.

If I sell a client 2 lbs of R22 for $200 a lb as long as I put in 2 lbs of R 22 I am not cheating a consumer, I am just expensive.

You are free to charge whatever you want for R22, so is evryone else, if you want to sell it cheaper than other guys, that is fine but to accuse someone of cheating consumers because they are more expensive than you is BS.

Maybe so.....But since I know what a 30lb jug cost and I see that someone is charging 75$-200$ a pound that makes them a crook.

bwalley · 09-06-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearclawz

Maybe so.....But since I know what a 30lb jug cost and I see that someone is charging 75$-200$ a pound that makes them a crook.

It doesn't matter what the jug of R22 costs, if a contractor sells a lb of R22 for $200 or $2,000 as long as he is putting in the quantity he sold, he is not a crook.

What would make him a crook is if he sold a client 2 lbs of R22 for $20, and only put in 1.5lbs.

You can buy a steak at Golden Coral for $6, or go to Ruth's Chris Steak House and pay $60 for a steak, does that mean that Ruth's Chris steakhouse is a crook because they are 10 times more expensive?

beenthere · 09-06-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearclawz

Maybe so.....But since I know what a 30lb jug cost and I see that someone is charging 75$-200$ a pound that makes them a crook.

Guess that means all of the equipment manufacturers are crooks.

They have mark ups just as much on both units, and replacement parts.
You, apparently have no idea what mark up they use.

So, by your reasoning. You sell equipment, for crooks. Kinda makes you a fence.

NickTech · 09-07-2009, 08:42 PM

$15 / lb means you most likely have no idea what to do with an a/c system besides putting in refrigerant. like an ol' boss once told me..."a tech will charge only what he thinks he's worth!"

MechAcc · 09-08-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bwalley

It doesn't matter what the jug of R22 costs, if a contractor sells a lb of R22 for $200 or $2,000 as long as he is putting in the quantity he sold, he is not a crook.

What would make him a crook is if he sold a client 2 lbs of R22 for $20, and only put in 1.5lbs.

You can buy a steak at Golden Coral for $6, or go to Ruth's Chris Steak House and pay $60 for a steak, does that mean that Ruth's Chris steakhouse is a crook because they are 10 times more expensive?

Golden Coral might be selling wet aged steaks whereas Ruth is selling 28 day dry aged steaks that are so tender you don't need a knife.

DCHVAC · 09-14-2009, 09:32 PM

Well...it seems this topice has been beaten into the ground by now.