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Old 01-04-2007, 05:37 PM   #21
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I'm right down the road from the St. Lucie nukie plant. Colorless, odorless, no problem.

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Old 01-04-2007, 05:43 PM   #22
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I'm right down the road from the St. Lucie nukie plant. Colorless, odorless, no problem.
That's awesome. We need more nuclear, in my opinion. I grew up within sight of 3 Mile Island, near Steelton, PA. That one reactor that had the problem back in (79?) is still offline, as it's been dismantled inside.
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Chernobyl was awsome, 3MI wasn't bad either. We're becoming more self exterminating, maybe not a bad thing for the planet.
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Hi guys

I'm going to have to side with mdshunk on the nuclear power. We have one in Burlington Ks called Wolf Creek. It started up I believe in 79 or 80 and has been running every since. Besides it makes night fishing on the lake much easier, you dont need fish locator just look for the green glowing movement in the water, haha. In reality we have been killing ourselfs for alot longer than we have had nuclear or even oil power. The nut cases of the world have killed more people in one day than 100 Chernoble's could kill in a year.

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Hi ChicagoLawn

I was thumbing through these post and yours really intrigued me. I work on waste oil heaters, I personally think that when they are set up properly they are a wonderful piece of equipment. They do have to have annual cleanings and some adjustments. You cannot just set it and forget it. You will need to check with a local technician to see what is required for your co emissions. You can adjust the co output on these with air dampers on the burner assembly. I would reccomend before you buy to make sure it is equipped with a Beckett burner assembly. As far as the maintenance you will need to have the heat exchanger and flue tubes cleaned every year, pre heater removed and cleaned, nozzle pulled and cleaned, Ignitor electrodeds adjusted, and cad cell checked and if needed replaced, flue tee cleaned, oil pre filter cleaned or replaced, air filter replaced if equipped with on board compressor and pump screen cleaned. I have several of the Reznor brands out there that we tune up every year. I am glad to see you do this with your waste oil, its much better than you dumping it where you shouldn't. One of the car dealerships we take care of has a Reznor Rad350. It uses right at 1000 gallons of oil a season. Hope this helps ease your mind about your purchase. And as windy as I am, when I die that hole in the ozone will probably go away.

Good luck
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Hi Rusty, I'm a new guy here,
My name is Dan, I just ordered a waste oil burner and I am going to run
cooking oil in it. I have some questions about the storage tank, I was thinking of using one of my old
oil tanks and running a 1/2 line off of it to fill a smaller tank that I
want to pre heat and and put another inline filter in.there is a small
heated tank on the unit also,do you think this a good idea?
And is there anything else that you can give me advise about prepping
the oil and the holding tanks.
Thank, Dan
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I'm far from a tree-hugger but why do I see the ozone holes getting larger and global warming getting more prevelent? Spewing heavyduty waste into the atmosphere is not cutting it in my book.
Hmmmmm....global warming is a farce. Where do you see the holes getting bigger?? Is that you Al Gore??

The number one reason for not installing a used oil burner is that they are high maintenance simply due to the contaminated condition of the oil.
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Hmmmmm....global warming is a farce. Where do you see the holes getting bigger?? Is that you Al Gore??

The number one reason for not installing a used oil burner is that they are high maintenance simply due to the contaminated condition of the oil.
doOd, your theories in this trade are mind boggling. I know you post for your company but I'm wondering if they are seeing what you type because, and I know we've spoken a few times and I respect your attitude and I kind of feel bad for about what I'm about to say but, holy friggin' bugeezuz do you not belong in this trade. You have no idea what you say and if you honestly believe that there is no ozone depletion than your company would have no problems releasing hcfc R-22 into the atmosphere and that is a 25 thousand dollar fine per act. I would have to suspect that your company indeed does not practice recovery whatsoever if you, as their spokesperson, does not believe in ozone depletion. Do you see how any one could come to that conclusion?

One singular chlorine atom can destroy over 100,000 ozone molecules. Why do you think we recover in the first place and why do you think R-22 is being phased out? Ozone.

Jeezuz guy, watch what you say even if you don't believe it but if you don't then you have a lot to learn and in the mean time should speak for no one.

Good lord, I've seen it all now.
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Here, study some.
http://www.epa.gov/ozone/


http://www.epa.gov/ozone/science/process.html
Large increases in stratospheric chlorine and bromine, however, have upset that balance. In effect, they have added a siphon downstream, removing ozone faster than natural ozone creation reactions can keep up. Therefore, ozone levels fall.

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doOd, your theories in this trade are mind boggling. I know you post for your company but I'm wondering if they are seeing what you type because, and I know we've spoken a few times and I respect your attitude and I kind of feel bad for about what I'm about to say but, holy friggin' bugeezuz do you not belong in this trade. You have no idea what you say and if you honestly believe that there is no ozone depletion than your company would have no problems releasing hcfc R-22 into the atmosphere and that is a 25 thousand dollar fine per act. I would have to suspect that your company indeed does not practice recovery whatsoever if you, as their spokesperson, does not believe in ozone depletion. Do you see how any one could come to that conclusion?

One singular chlorine atom can destroy over 100,000 ozone molecules. Why do you think we recover in the first place and why do you think R-22 is being phased out? Ozone.

Jeezuz guy, watch what you say even if you don't believe it but if you don't then you have a lot to learn and in the mean time should speak for no one.

Good lord, I've seen it all now.
lol...I have a feeling the you and I would get along fine.

Look, while I am, to some extent, a representative of CAS I am also an individual. I can say that CAS is very strict about following trade standards, including the EPA. As a matter of fact...employees get fired on the spot for certain "egregious" violations of company policy. One of them? Venting of refrigerants intentionally.

That being said...global warming is a farce. It is a lucrative market actually. Just ask Al Gore and his followers...that is, if you can get them to be honest. The earth's climate has always had ups and downs and more important many ACTUAL sciencetists debunk man made "global warming".

In terms of your comments towards a cholrine atom destroying ozone molecules. Just wondering how that along with the automatic assumption that CAS does not practice refrigerant recovery ties into my comments regarding a used oil burner?

My comments regarding political issues or environmental concerns do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of CAS.

Anyway....back to the original intent of the Thread starter.

Furnaces designed to burn/utilize used oils for fuel are very high maintenance which is not really a big deal if you are willing to upkeep the equipment and wish to burn your used oils v/s dispose of them. Its simply a matter of knowing what you're getting into.

PS....Doc I will start a thread on HVACsite.com regarding this issue of Global Warming so that we don't overtake this thread with unrelated discussion.

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You are one strange, strange character my friend, but if I say potayto and you say potahto then so be it but let me ask you this, if men are from Mars and women from Venus, what the heck planet are you from?
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Waste oil burners, furnaces and boilers are a good idea and Green as grass. In fact the EPA approves and encourages there use, as it is safer to convert/burn a potentially hazardous waste onsite, rather than to truck it cross-country.

Some waste oil units are better than others (especially true of boilers) but all require experienced regular maintenance by the manufacturer or properly trained owner. As with burning wood, knowing what to burn is important. In the case of waste oil, the mix is critical.

We design hydronic heating systems, including radiant floor and snow-melting, using waste oil boilers-among others-and find they pay for themselves in short order. In some of our bigger jobs, less than three years.

No one should install any hot burning appliance such as oil, waste oil, coal or wood without the help of an experienced professional. It is not only the considerable fire hazard but the critical
need for minimum combustion air to prevent CO. As most steel buildings and pole sheds are very tight, this is of particular concern.

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waste oil burners, furnaces and boilers are a good idea and green as grass. In fact the epa approves and encourages there use, as it is safer to convert/burn a potentially hazardous waste onsite, rather than to truck it cross-country.

Some waste oil units are better than others (especially true of boilers) but all require experienced regular maintenance by the manufacturer or properly trained owner. As with burning wood, knowing what to burn is important. In the case of waste oil, the mix is critical.

We design hydronic heating systems, including radiant floor and snow-melting, using waste oil boilers-among others-and find they pay for themselves in short order. In some of our bigger jobs, less than three years.

No one should install any hot burning appliance such as oil, waste oil, coal or wood without the help of an experienced professional. It is not only the considerable fire hazard but the critical
need for minimum combustion air to prevent co. As most steel buildings and pole sheds are very tight, this is of particular concern.
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Waste oil is my friend.

U gotta clean it before you do anything with it though.
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