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Combustion Air Details For Trane HV95
My HVAC guy will be installing two Trane XV95 furnace in a house that I have in for permits right now and the village is asking me to "Provide outdoor combustion air duct details for mechanical rooms in complaince with Section G2407.6"
Now I took this to mean that they just want some shop drawings for the combustion air details and thought I could probably find these drawings on Trane's website but I can't find any kind of detail drawings anywhere for this on the net. Does anybody know where I can find something like this?
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Re: Combustion Air Details For Trane HV95 If they are only asking for details, you should be able to send them the worksheets using the math below. Have your HVAC guy do the math to show the method they chose meets the minimum requirements. And maybe give some specs on the materials, along with a copy of the drawings. Outdoor combustion air shall be provided through opening(s) to the outdoors in accordance with Section G2407.6.1 or G2407.6.2. The minimum dimension of air openings shall be not less than 3 inches (76 mm).G2407.6: (from the 2006 fuel gas code i believe) - - G2407.6.1 ( 304.6.1) Two-permanent-openings method. Two permanent openings, one commencing within 12 inches (305 mm) of the top and one commencing within 12 inches (305 mm) of the bottom of the enclosure, shall be provided. The openings shall communicate directly, or by ducts, with the outdoors or spaces that freely communicate with the outdoors. - - - Where directly communicating with the outdoors, or where communicating with the outdoors through vertical ducts, each opening shall have a minimum free area of 1 square inch per 4,000 Btu/h (550 mm2/kW) of total input rating of all appliances in the enclosure [see Figures G2407.6.1(1) and G2407.6.1(2)]. - - - Where communicating with the outdoors through horizontal ducts, each opening shall have a minimum free area of not less than 1 square inch per 2,000 Btu/h (1,100 mm2/kW) of total input rating of all appliances in the enclosure [see Figure G2407.6.1(3)]. G2407.6.2 (304.6.2) One-permanent-opening method. One permanent opening, commencing within 12 inches (305 mm) of the top of the enclosure, shall be provided. The appliance shall have clearances of at least 1 inch (25 mm) from the sides and back and 6 inches (152 mm) from the front of the appliance. The opening shall directly communicate with the outdoors or through a vertical or horizontal duct to the outdoors, or spaces that freely communicate with the outdoors (see Figure G2407.6.2) and shall have a minimum free area of 1 square inch per 3,000 Btu/h (734 mm2/kW) of the total input rating of all appliances located in the enclosure and not less than the sum of the areas of all vent connectors in the space. Let's do some math: Stated facts: "A gas burning water heater and furnace with combined BTU's of 110,000 located in a confined space " G2407.6 says "each opening shall have a minimum free area of 1 square inch per 4,000 Btu/h (550 mm2/kW) of total input rating of all appliances in the enclosure", 110,000 / 4,000 = 27.5 X 2 = 55 square inches. Never had to do this myself, but thats how i would take it.
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Re: Combustion Air Details For Trane HV95
I believe, the inspectors just want to know where you are going to get combustion air from. You cannot draw the air from the room that the furnaces are located or from the living quarters. Around here, we usually cut in a 4x10 at the floor to draw air from the crawl space, and another 4x10 to draw air from the attic. If the furnaces are direct vent furnaces, you will likely pipe the air from any outdoor location via pvc pipe.
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