Unlicensed Handyman KILLS 4 Month Old Girl.

Plumb Crazy

Nope NOT "handymen" at all !!! .... OR Plumbing Contractor ,... OR Fuelgas Mechanical Contractor,...OR HVAC Contractor ...OR LICENSED !!!

SelfContract

[quote=mdshunk;459001]How could you be in a house for 1/2 hour, with a gas line leaking gas full-bore, and not smell gas?[/quote]


Very good question (because natural gas gives very strong odor). Three (3) possible theories:

1. His nose not working!... like too much sneezing, and VERY BAD stuffy nose & can not smell caused by allergy? ( but I doubt it.. June is not allergy season)

2. He was on white crack, yes... I meant a *sniffing* dog with a bleeding nose...!?? LOL

3. He was in separate room, or behind closed door couldn't smell things in hallway!?? (still an Idiot!!)

SelfContract

Most SMALL landlords are also handymen themselves or... they prefer to call their friends/relatives to work for them on to SAVES $$$..

Plumb Crazy

It is illegal in Florida for a Property owner to make any repairs that fall within the scope of a licensed trade if they rent the property or sell it within a year of self build or repair. I used to think that was a useless law but I guess this is a good reason why its there.

Splinter

Hey Plumb-

Easy on the name calling, eh? There's a lot of stand-up guys here who go by the name "Remodeler", who are in fact licensed, and like me, bring in plumbers and sparky's and roofers, etc., where necessary.

There's a huge difference between an unlicensed hack, and those who are professional handymen and remodelers.

Making such broad generalizations is not a good way for the new guy to make friends around here. This forum is tough enough, dont stir the pot...

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Ron The Plumber

When necessary?

Is there times when you need plumbing work done and you find it not necessary to call a plumber in.

Define necessary

Splinter

As far as you're concerned, whenever I need plumbing, electrical and roofing done... How about that?

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Ron The Plumber

That's what I'm talking about.

Still confused about one more thing. What does this suppose to mean to me.



Did you just not talk about name calling, with in your reply, that could mean you called me something.

rbsremodeling

IN Maryland you can perform certain plumbing work as a homeowner or remodeler without being a licensed plumber. Most remodelers don't they hire experts but I have seen alot of homeowners attempt the work some get it done most fail

I for one believe it should be left for the pros.

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Splinter

Ron, what's so hard to understand about the term "when necessary"? I wouldnt be calling a plumber to help me with a crown molding install, would I?

I know what you were getting at with your earlier post, and I dont think we need to steer this thread in that direction, like most of these unfortunately go. I thought you would get the hint with my last reply...

My was more of a "fer' christssake" than it was a "you ass hole", btw.


Being a moderator for Nathan on one of his forums, I thought you'd appreciate the need to keep things civil, but in my opinion, it seems you just want to keep preaching the same "get a licensed plumber" and "all GC's are scum" rhetoric to the only 4 non-plumbing fools who still come in this forum. (myself the fool included) I'm sorry for trying to learn about plumbing, what was I thinking?

Now, do you really think my comment to PlumbCrazy was out of line? Is it right for him to lump together all those who dont have a very specific trade (drywall, carpenter, tileman, etc) with the criminals who caused such a tragedy? Dont bother to answer, I dont particularly care what you think on this.... I'm going to play with my kid before it's her naptime.. That much more important than wasting another minute on this.

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Ron The Plumber

I don't see where he called anyone a name, so yes your comment was out of line. He was talking about non licensed trades, sorry you took him the wrong way, and I never called anyone scum.

essrmo

[quote=SelfContract;459072]or the first pendejo drywalled over where the wall heater was. (speculation)

Plumb Crazy

Hey Splinter,

No offense intended to any real professional of any trade including handymen and remodelers. I respect all trades and will save everyone the same lines and reasons you should not do illegal work. But in this case I was referring to those who were justifying and minimizing the facts of the matter by implying that its ok for a handyman to do work covered by a license they dont have so long as the handyman is not an "idiot" like the ones who caused that tragedy. I SAY TO THEM, IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR IT!!!

skyhook

This might shed some light.
http://www.contractortalk.com/f44/hi-13657/

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Ron The Plumber

Skyhook,

I used to have my own company, I work for a plumber company here.

What's your point?

Grumpyplumber

Hadn't you & I had our round at it regarding your not hiring plumbers on your low priced bath remodels?

From what I recall, you never hire plumbers...correct me, please do, I'd like to hear you've changed that.

Ron The Plumber

Yes Splinter

Do tell us.

Grumpyplumber

First off, telling GC's that do their own plumbing it's illegal isn't name calling, it's simply illegal, sorry if that hurts any feelings or ego's.

Stop attempting to mince our words when we regard unlicensed hacks as scum...nobody said a thing about GC's in general, that seems to be your fixation...makes me wonder why so defensive.
No amount of whining that we're supposed to give out information because it's the message boards policy is going to win favors here, in fact, the reason I joined was the fact that this is NOT a DIY forum, we don't give out freebies for those who want to do dangerous or illegal work.
Secondly, I looked around and found previous posts where you openly admit to doing your own plumbing, "when necessary" seems to be a bit broad of a description.
HERE:

Splinter

Hey guys, excuse me for trying to keep this place a little civil... Thanks Grumpy for digging up a past post where I tried to do the same... Funny how I used the same "name calling" line on both Rags and PlumbCrazy, eh?

Grumpy, I couldnt care less if you call unlicensed hacks scum... I thought Plumbs comments about Remodelers was wrong.

If I took Plumb's comments the wrong way, then I apologize, but the way I saw it, he was referring to remodeler type guys as being in the same group as unlicensed hack scum.

Sorry Grumpy, I never said that... you are in fact mistaken...

I have admitted freely that I've had to solder in new angle stops from time to time, but for the most part, I use a plumber on my projects. As far as the low-priced comment, we discussed this in that past thread... What may be low priced to some, is high-end to others... I usually come in as a higher price on the type of bath remodels we had discussed.






BTW- Here's what I said in that thread you were thinking about..
Here's your reply...

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Ron The Plumber

Sorry try again, installing a shower yourself is far from angle stops. Come on Splinter. Don't you even remember what your have posted in the past.