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Old 12-10-2008, 09:05 PM   #1
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Sub Contractors And Their Employees Rights?


Just wanted to know how to handle an issue. Here's my situation...
My brother & I have been installing granite counter tops for a few months now
and we have been trying to get the fabricators to put seams in to prevent us from carrying such large & heavy pieces. On several occasions, such as today, we have carried 400lb plus pieces uphill, downhill, downstairs and tomorrow another two 350lb pieces up 6 flights to a 3rd floor condo. To me this is uncalled for. As subs to the fabricators do we have any rights to express our concern for our safety or just grin & bear it. This is our bread & butter, and we're concerned they will just hire other subs to punish. One other thought, we're hiring two helpers (yes we have WC) but are we putting ourselves in a situation to be sued by our helpers if one is injured due to our fabricators asking us to install such large pieces.

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Old 12-10-2008, 09:48 PM   #2
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Your are only asking to be sued if you do not provide necessary back supports, adequate people, etc... not for the size or weight of the product. I am sure the plumbers would like to have a 2 piece cast iron tubs also, but that is not going to happen. Charge more for difficult locations & use more people, or find a line of work better suited for you.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:24 PM   #3
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If you subbiing from them, and they have obviously done the work befor and/or handle the same materials, ask them how they do it.

This method saves you time, money, headaches and makes the customer feel powerful because you are seeking their expertise

Tow birds with one stone.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:40 PM   #4
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As subs to the fabricators do we have any rights to express our concern for our safety or just grin & bear it.
you can express your concern and you have the choice of performing the work or not. That's it.

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One other thought, we're hiring two helpers (yes we have WC) but are we putting ourselves in a situation to be sued by our helpers if one is injured due to our fabricators asking us to install such large pieces.
This has nothing to do with the fabricators.


Most top makers will use as few as pieces as possible. Seams are ugly and detract from the value of the top. You need to learn how to handle weights such as those mentioned. It is impossible to remove all the difficulty but there are methods to reduce the strain on you and the others.

It sounds like you are not using the muscle between your ears. If you keep that up, the rest of your muscles may revolt.
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you can express your concern and you have the choice of performing the work or not. That's it.

This has nothing to do with the fabricators.


Most top makers will use as few as pieces as possible. Seams are ugly and detract from the value of the top. You need to learn how to handle weights such as those mentioned. It is impossible to remove all the difficulty but there are methods to reduce the strain on you and the others.

It sounds like you are not using the muscle between your ears. If you keep that up, the rest of your muscles may revolt.

Wow, you've been helpful.
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Just wanted to know how to handle an issue. Here's my situation...
My brother & I have been installing granite counter tops for a few months now
and we have been trying to get the fabricators to put seams in to prevent us from carrying such large & heavy pieces.
How does a sub get to dictate a customer's finished product by demanding more seams?
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Ah heck... I'll have my wife come over and lift the darn things for ya...


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Wow, you've been helpful.
thanks. I simply gave him the truth.

I'll let you make him feel better and give him the warm fuzzies.
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