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Old 08-16-2011, 04:50 PM   #1
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is this standard practice?
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:11 PM   #2
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NO.

that jobsite is looking at a rather laRGE osha FINE IF they see the video....

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I think that ironwork is different and no harnessing is required as that could make the job far more dangerous than w/o tieoffs.

When working on scaffolding, there's no 'wall' and we'd have to do 100% tieoff . But when walking a beam to move the winch or something, just where were we supposed to tie off to? Never got the answer to the last one and we didn't, but I've seen stucco guys on scaffolding that didn't tie off, so not sure on the regs. We'd just go by what the GC said.
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I have been watching programs like mega construction lately and I see them all the time working without any type of safty harness.
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From what I remember of the OSHA 30 class - I think iron workers can go up to 40' without having to be tied off.
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Connectors don't have to be tied off. The OSHA section for ironwork is one of the strictest, because it was written by actual ironworkers and adopted by OSHA.
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From what I remember of the OSHA 30 class - I think iron workers can go up to 40' without having to be tied off.
30' But you are mostly correct.
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I see them all the time working without any type of safty harness.
that's because sometimes the cure is worse than the problem.

The drag/trip hazard by tieing off is often far more dangerous than w/o it.
It's be interesting to see that vid shot below to see any nets/platforms below to fall on, sort of like in the US Navy's aircraft carriers. Another benefit of these is you don't have to tie off your tools as they also create a real hazard by their drag.
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locally if your on a site that requires fall protection you have to be connected once your at 6ft.... which makes absolutely no sense seeing how a 5'10 worker connected with a 4 ft lanyard will hit the ground by the time it releases......

ive seen the mega construction your talking about,, thats some crazy sh.#$ . more power to these guys to have the nerve for that stuff though
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JUST 2 weeks ago I get a phone call from a good friend who is a GC. His job sight was 30 mins from mine. He said there was a job site accident, can I come out?

I get there. Cops, Ambulance, Firefighters. Everybody.

Apparently, one of the steel workers was about 30' up on a scissor lift, didn't want to wait for the crane to arrive, started removing a 20' long I beam, the thing twisted and gave, swung and smacked him on the neck.

Everybody thought he was dead. Took 4 men to get him out. He was unconscious. Still in hospital, didn't die, don't have an update on his status.

BUT, my friend, being the GC, got hit up LARGE for fines. The steel worker wasn't harnessed in to the scissor lift.

Would it have changed anything? No. Doesn't matter.

6 months ago I hired these same steel workers for one of my projects. Their end alone was $400k. Through that experience and watching them work I realized 1 thing: You could NEVER pay me enough to be a steel worker. I was MOVING a 15' girder once, the thing twisted on the ground and smashed my pinky finger. THAT experience alone was enough for me to never want to mess with steel ever again.
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locally if your on a site that requires fall protection you have to be connected once your at 6ft.... which makes absolutely no sense seeing how a 5'10 worker connected with a 4 ft lanyard will hit the ground by the time it releases......
If that's the case you need a travel restraint to prevent the worker from falling.
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I was MOVING a 15' girder once, the thing twisted on the ground and smashed my pinky finger. THAT experience alone was enough for me to never want to mess with steel ever again.
"pinch point" Not a lot of trades know that term but some learn it.....later.....
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its funny, i went skydiving a few weeks ago, and it felt like nothing, but i dont think i could ever do an iron workers jobs.

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