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Old 07-20-2017, 08:23 PM   #1
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So i got a window repair tomorrow 30 feet in the air for a church and I've been waiting on a lift rental for 3 months now (sharing with a lighting contractor who is replacing bulbs outside)

I realized I only had on harness/lanyard so I went to purchase a set for my new employee at home depot and no less than five people saw me carrying it and kept asking if I got caught...to the point it was starting to irk me.

Each time I replied "No, I actually care for my guys safety and will gladly spend the $100 for his safety". It was revealed that 90% of the time home depot only sells safety gear after a contractor has been fined...

Has safety really become that much of an afterthought these days?

I tell my employee all the time, if he gets hurt that means I would have to actually do physical labor so it's easier to just keep him alive
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:57 PM   #2
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Good to see you posting again!

Big commercial outfits are pretty careful to follow OSHA, small ones that don't fall under OSHA do whatever, and some of those become large enough for OSHA to take effect.

It's true, some people don't care too much about employee safety.

I will say there are people like me that learned roofing with no ropes or harness, and I'm more dangerous in some ways wearing the harness and rope. I have never adjusted to moving differently, so I can get a little tangled. For someone who is started out right, that shouldn't be a problem.

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My guys gripe about wearing them when we go on boom lifts and when i catch them i tell them they will pay the fine if caught....i sound like a broken record

Most of the time when we go up we are 60 ft up and personally i like having it on

Its like a cat and mouse game


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Have never worn a harness in my life. ( knocking on my wooden table ).


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I not ashamed to say I will wear one when up high on a roof. When I am up there I don't want to be coming off unless I want to.
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I put one on for the first time in my 50s. I walk 12 /12s mostly, and not as agile as when I was 10, 20, 30, 40,...
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, small ones that don't fall under OSHA do whatever
I have no idea where you get this idea?? If you have an employee you fall under OSHA and if they get a call on you they must act or,,,, well there is a OSHA 30 class that everyone should take.
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Many of the job site I work on you either buckle up or get your butt kicked off the site. As far as I'm concerned the retractable life line is the best thing since sliced bread.
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I put one on for the first time in my 50s. I walk 12 /12s mostly, and not as agile as when I was 10, 20, 30, 40,...


Walk a 12/12? . I thought my worker was spider man but geeez


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Are you saying you didn't get caught?
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Walk a 12/12? . I thought my worker was spider man but geeez
I always try new shoes / boots on a low section of the barn here first, if they're wrong, you'll surf. Lug soles seem to be the best for shingles.

Don't get me wrong, I'll use a rope if I'm going to be doing a lot of work on a steep roof, but I never used to.
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I have no idea where you get this idea?? If you have an employee you fall under OSHA and if they get a call on you they must act or,,,, well there is a OSHA 30 class that everyone should take.

If they get a call, yes, but no programmed inspections.

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If they get a call, yes, but no programmed inspections.

It is always a shock when they do show up I've had then pull up on a residential home with 3 guys on it.
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It is always a shock when they do show up I've had then pull up on a residential home with 3 guys on it.


Only show up to investigate a serious accident here. Thank god. I'd be out of business years ago due to the fines


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My company is moving into another building in a few weeks. I went to visit the new site while the GC's guys were in there cutting out a load-bearing masonry wall with no masks, no eye protection, and a leaf blower.

I waited for them to finish to get their attention. When the lead guy saw me I thought he was going to crap his pants and then I realized I was wearing a dress shirt, carpenter's pants and a tape measure with a notepad in my hand. Guess I look like what they think an OSHA inspector looks like.
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Many of the job site I work on you either buckle up or get your butt kicked off the site. As far as I'm concerned the retractable life line is the best thing since sliced bread.
Nothing pisses me off more then going to reach for a cable and hitting the end of the slack in my lanyard.

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Are you saying you didn't get caught?
Back in 1995 I was young and dumb helping a friend do their roof. Of course, they had the cheapest aluminum ladder money could buy...went up with a bundle on my shoulders and came down with a bundle on my chest Damned ladder snapped in half on me when i was a few rungs from the roof line. After that, it's been a struggle getting past the 3rd rung on a ladder for me since then.

I still push myself from time to time to face that fear, but i definitely don't play around with safety on heights anymore

Today, I had another contractor ask me about ladder hooks to store her ladders. I said if I cant get it with a step ladder, i rent a liftand if they wont pay for a lift, I wont do it

She snarked back "Must be nice!"
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She snarked back "Must be nice!"
Did you tell her that it is very nice? I would've
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I did say "That's the best part of being self employed, I can say no to crap I dont want to do!" haha

She walked away after that remark
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I have yet to have a ladder break on me, although some seemed to try pretty hard. I think the heaviest load I carried was 90lb roll roofing (90 actual lbs).

On a side note - I hate that architectural shingles weigh so much more than 3 tab. 3 tab feels heavier than I remember it being, and architectural seems to be getting into the roll roofing weight class, except with roll roofing, it doesn't flop around when you carry it.

Give me a few more years, and picking up the cat is going to feel like picking up a dog.

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