Building Burned Down!

grizl · 11-20-2008, 05:02 PM

a job we just finished burnt down last night. crazy

MALCO.New.York · 11-20-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by grizl

a job we just finished burnt down. The scaffolding was from the efis guys. This was last night.
cause is yet unknown, but have a couple guesses.
we will prob get the rebuild so whatevs

check the out comments on this page.

Not saying what, who, when, or how, but more often than not, mid construction fires DO NOT HAPPEN BY ERROR.

silvertree · 11-20-2008, 05:38 PM

Dude, YOU DO NOT HAVE A GUESS as to how it happened. Follow?
When the arson guy calls you you don't know.
Let the pro's do what they have to. Keep your guesses to yourself and especially don't talk about it here.

Just some friendly advice.

22rifle · 11-20-2008, 05:49 PM

Shoulda given in to the thugs. cough, cough

Sorry this happened man. Hope you don't get shafted in any way.

MALCO.New.York · 11-20-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by silvertree

Dude, YOU DO NOT HAVE A GUESS as to how it happened. Follow?
When the arson guy calls you you don't know.
Let the pro's do what they have to. Keep your guesses to yourself and especially don't talk about it here.

Just some friendly advice.

Agreed!!!!!!!

concretemasonry · 11-20-2008, 06:19 PM

It could not have been the union since you will get a cost plus re-build.

You should serve them coffee and Krispy Kremes (if they are still in business)while picketing if you get the rebuilding job. Maybe the target was the GC. In the Republic of Wisconsin you never know what can happen.

I have had tires slashed by union mavericks, but fortunately the union Business Agent called to warn me so I could put on old tires to sacrifice that night.

grizl · 11-20-2008, 10:09 PM

yeah, id like to believe this is just a place where a couple guys talk, but that's not the case. 85 views already.

**joasis** · 11-21-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by concretemasonry

I have had tires slashed by union mavericks, but fortunately the union Business Agent called to warn me so I could put on old tires to sacrifice that night.

I guess I must be missing something, but as I have said before, why would anyone put up with crap like that? I know these guys get public sympathy for their cause, but if a goon slashed my tires, and I caught him, one if us isn't walking away. Another reason to be glad I am in Oklahoma, a right to work state, and we can still be men here.

MALCO.New.York · 11-21-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joasis

one if us isn't walking away...... and we can still be men here.

Live and let live. Live and let die!

joemirag · 11-25-2008, 11:23 AM

Hope you dont get screwed over

buildpinnacle · 11-29-2008, 10:09 AM

Never had that happen. Had a 4" hail storm hit when we were at substantial completion on a garage build. Ended up with another 30K in work as the house was 98 SQ 10/12 2 story. Never thought about being blamed for the hailstorm, though. I don't know would be a practiced phrase in my company about now. Let them do their jobs and stay out of it.

grizl · 01-08-2009, 08:24 PM

yeah, it was determined that it was arson. not the first time either.
not saying it had anything to do with the union. But does anyone else have problems with the onions burning?
intentionally misspelled, i like callin' em onions

A W Smith · 01-08-2009, 08:38 PM

Could it have been a homeless squatter? Is it below freezing there?

nap · 01-08-2009, 09:08 PM

grizl, you know I don't support union malfeasance and while this may be a possibility, your post appears to be specifically designed to act as cheerleader for the anti-union crowd here. You have given absolutely no information that might indicate it was the unions, or anything else. How about we start a list of possibilites? Seeing that we don;t even know who owned the building and what the purpose of the building is, we can just speculate 'cuz that's all we got!!

owner is bankrupt and needed to lose this building

owner pissed off the mobsters in Chicago

one of your guys was really pissed off at you

one of your subs was really pissed off at you

one of the owners girlfriends was really pissed off at him because he bought his wife a nicer present for her birthday than the girlfriend got

one of the owners competitors didn't want anymore competition

and the list could go on forever. Come on grizl, if it was the unions, then hopefully they will get caught and punished but without proof, all you have is prejudiced speculation. You want them to be fair with you yet you aren;t fair with them. Not fair.
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what does this mean:

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it was determined that it was arson. not the first time either.

not the first time for;

this owner
one of the subs
this specific business
this block
this street

what?

MALCO.New.York · 01-08-2009, 09:14 PM

Speculation concerning "the who", can ONLY get you DEAD!

nap · 01-08-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York

Speculation concerning "the who", can ONLY get you DEAD!

especially if it is number 2 on my list

MALCO.New.York · 01-08-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nap

especially if it is number 2 on my list

Zactly!

neolitic · 01-08-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nap

grizl, you know I don't support union malfeasance and while this may be a possibility, your post appears to be specifically designed to act as cheerleader for the anti-union crowd here. You have given absolutely no information that might indicate it was the unions, or anything else. How about we start a list of possibilites? Seeing that we don;t even know who owned the building and what the purpose of the building is, we can just speculate 'cuz that's all we got!!

owner is bankrupt and needed to lose this building

owner pissed off the mobsters in Chicago

one of your guys was really pissed off at you

one of your subs was really pissed off at you

one of the owners girlfriends was really pissed off at him because he bought his wife a nicer present for her birthday than the girlfriend got

one of the owners competitors didn't want anymore competition

and the list could go on forever. Come on grizl, if it was the unions, then hopefully they will get caught and punished but without proof, all you have is prejudiced speculation. You want them to be fair with you yet you aren;t fair with them. Not fair.
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what does this mean:

not the first time for;

this owner
one of the subs
this specific business
this block
this street

what?

It's so much easier to form opinions
without sorting through facts!

"Non impediti ratione cogitationis conloquium currus"

grizl · 01-09-2009, 09:31 PM

look, i'm not seriously speculating, it's it jest. it seems like everyone who speaks of this assumes who it was. whether this is or is not true, I don't know.
Two of our jobs have burnt down in the last two years because of arson.
-- I'd rather not end up dead, I just like to talk about the things going on with our company. Don't they usually do phone threats first anyways?

MALCO.New.York · 01-09-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by grizl

-- I'd rather not end up dead, I just like to talk about the things going on with our company. Don't they usually do phone threats first anyways?

Then SHUT THE F%^K UP! Jesus H Cripes!

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