Security Systems?

woodchuck2

I am looking for some info on a 2 camera security or surveillance system with daytime/nighttime capabilities, recording and of course the capability to check from their laptops at Homeowners homes. The camera's will be installed on a Water Pump House in a housing development and the members of the Board would like to have access to the camera's from their own homes through their laptops. There isnt anyone withen a 50 mile radius who does this type of install besides maybe Brinks and there is also a strong possibility that i will be taking over all the maintenance at this housing development in the near future so my having knowledge of this system will be a must anyway. Thanks for any info.

Inner10

Whats the budget?

Ebay get a kit with 4 cameras and a 1TB DVR for 4-500 bucks.

Buy a speco DVR for 1500, and get 2 DN cams for 300 bucks each.

Get a Pelco DVR for 3500 and a couple autodomes or pelco DN for 3000 each.

Or go IP and get 2 panasonics for 1000 and use a computer as a DVR or buy an NVR.

I use alot of Axis and Panasonic IP cameras because they integrate very well and are easy to view with cellphones, conmputers, tvs etc. Gives you a little more versitility.

CanCritter

set my basic walk through the door alarm off a hr ago...although its basic am glad its there..

woodchuck2

They havent really given me a budget yet but from the past dealings they want cheap. Typical i know. Here is what i found so far http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-1...d-monitor.aspx . I would assume that the NVR will work off a normal phone line or will this need DSL? Another concern for me is the humidity. I will be reinsulating the building here soon, installing a drop ceiling and a dehumidifier but i am sure that there will still be some moisture problem no less the issue with chlorine.

woodchuck2

Disregard that lost link, i believe this may be more of what they want. What your opinion? http://store.videosurveillance.com/e...4Pa38Ta38Lchz0

Inner10

The cameras are not D/N nor do they have IR.

If you want good D/N IR cameras that are IP then you are looking at spending some good coin. If you want IP go with Panasonic or Axis.

The NVR in this situation is a computer you supply, this system does not come with a standalone NVR. The computer/NVR should be LAN, your LAN has to have highspeed access to the internet through a router. A good router is key budget 150 bucks for a router. No router no high-speed = no remote access.

Keep your recording gear in a climate controlled place, there are lots of cameras that work fine in harsh conditions.

Kgmz

A few questions.

How far is this pump house from their houses?

Do they want to just view the cameras, or do they want to view and record?

Do they really want to spend $30 to $50 a month for a DSL line, etc.




If their house are close enough they could access these cameras wirelessly.

Simplest way without recording in the pump house would be to get 2 IP cameras, a switch, and a wireless access point with external antenna. You assign the cameras a unique network address, and also the wireless acess point. Their houses would also have a wireless access point with external antenna. Now depending on the wireless access points you set the pump house AP as access point and their houses as AP client, or you set all of them to wireless bridge mode.

When set up this way they can view the cameras by typing in the cameras IP addess, and they could record the video from the cameras to a computer in their house.

woodchuck2

Thanks inner10, i will be doing some more research and i may have to look into subbing this out. This is something i have never done before but would like to learn, problem is i am not that computer savvy. The homeowners are requesting to monitor from their homes on site and their homes out of state. Like mentioned they may not want to spend money on the DSL or even just a monthly bill for a basic phone line. I will be checking the place today to see if they have a phone already installed as i cant remember, i have only been inside the place twice and that was last year. Thanks for the info guys.

Inner10

If your not network savy stick to analog cameras and a DVR. They need high speed.. You also need a router. Most DVRs come with free DDNS, failing there are sites that host for free. If you don't use a DDNS then you need to pay for a static IP.

You can get 2 Speco D/N w/IR dome cameras (varifocal) for about 200-250 a piece, an ok DVR for 600 bucks, 150 for a router + monthly high speed line. Add in your hours and wire + margins and call it a day.

cwatbay

I just happened to see your question. I would agree that you should probably stay with analog cameras and set up the DVR or NVR with a static IP address, unless you feel comfortable with a Dynamic IP set up and go with a 3rd party DDNS, either supplied by the Mfg or something like TZO.

You are certainly free to ask me questions. Our firm has set up several hundred analog systems with networked DVR's and remote command and control. We have also set up many ( and increasing ) numbers of Mega Pixel cams coupled with Wireless LAN/Wan systems using Araya, Axis, Proxim, ACTi and other manufacturers. We are increasingly using IoImage, Arecont, Mobotix and Cohu. We are so far pleased with the H.264 format, although it has a few limitations.

cliff@specializedelectrical.com CA C10 864257

PS: Why are you buying from an end-user supplier ??

Inner10

Analog cameras with an NVR?


Unnecessary expense don't you think? Its not really any more difficult to setup a DDNS.

cwatbay

My response to the poster is that he is using NVR and DVR designations as if they are somehow the same - which they aren't. If he wants to call a networked DVR an NVR - then fine - I am not trying to confuse him more.

The fact that he is looking at end-user suppliers seems to indicate to me that either his clients are going on the web and looking at stuff, or, since this is so new to him, he is also looking at end-user supplier sites.

ATT is selling "sticky" Static IP addresses and you are looking at around 45-50 dollars a month. I would agree that if you have a little bit of knowledge (which is dangerous) you could go ahead and set up the DDNS - even if he has to call up the Mfg's help line to do it. I happen to like TZO - 24 bucks a year and thats it.

But all of this may be a mute point, since it sounds like his clients have big ideas, but really don't want to pay anything for it. Gee, what a shock !!

Inner10

Cheers, I think we've all been there a time or two.

Cameraguy

Insight Commander Systems has what you need.