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01-05-2009, 07:02 PM
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Residential Security Cameras
I want to install a cat5 camera system at a customers house. 5-8 ir color cameras outside and inside. I want the system to be visible on all the tvs in the house. I also want video recording for 48-96 hours. Does anyone have a quality brand and parts list for me.. I could really use the help. Thank guys!!!
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01-05-2009, 07:06 PM
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Handle It!
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Ademco comes to mind.
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01-05-2009, 07:17 PM
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A cat5 system..
So you are looking to do IP cameras or video over baluns?
Are you going to run at least an 18g pair to it for power or try and do power over the cat5?
If doing IP cameras, AXIS or Panasonic. That's the quality stuff. But you are looking at at least $600 per camera plus an NVR. But you'll have a hard time getting those on the TVs.
If video cameras, Samsung or Panasonic. I like DigiMerge DVRs or GeoVision PC based solutions for larger installs. DigiMerge has a programmable out that you can tie into a video distamp to feed a video input on the TVs in the house.
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01-05-2009, 10:27 PM
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http://www.x10.com/minisites/x10sentinel/
I have not ever used their cameras but they look to be very versatile. If the quality is not there, (the stuff does not look heavy duty), at least you can get some ideas...
I do have some of their wireless remotes, they work great for the Christmas lights.
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01-05-2009, 10:39 PM
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I just bought a load of stuff from Super Circuits for a similar project. They are on the web and you can call them for advice.
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01-06-2009, 08:31 AM
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A lot of variables here - day/night cameras or not, field of view, event triggering to record or always on, number of total FPS throughput, POE switch to power the cameras, housing type. We do not use anything but IP cameras any more, usually megapixel cameras instead of PTZ. Typical camera sales price is anywhere from $795 to about $2500, software runs about $1500 and standard per-drop cable install.
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01-11-2009, 01:32 PM
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thanks
Thanks for the help! I was planning on spend aroun $500-700 per camera and they would be used at night. Any specific suggestions??? landscape lighting is my game but i've gotta into home automation recently.
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01-11-2009, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tgeb
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Why does the x10 site look like a low-budget porn site
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01-11-2009, 02:07 PM
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TGEB's married so he has to have stuff planned out.
Baby are you looking at porn?
No trying to find some camera's to keep you safe at home my love
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01-11-2009, 02:39 PM
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Fentoozler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbsremodeling
TGEB's married so he has to have stuff planned out.
Baby are you looking at porn?
No trying to find some camera's to keep you safe at home my love
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I just got "busted" looking at porn...
...but honey - they are selling security equipment....you want to know "Who lurks in the dark right?"
Our home could be over run with street walkers!
The Mrs. failed to see the humor.
I fail to see why x10 needs the sleaze to sell their product....and decided to not buy their cameras
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01-11-2009, 02:58 PM
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That's great advertising. I wish I had lurkers that looked light that.
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01-11-2009, 03:02 PM
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Fentoozler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnettica
That's great advertising. I wish I had lurkers that looked light that.
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Well put the lights up...maybe it attracts them as well
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01-13-2009, 01:55 PM
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haha. you guys a re funny. x10 is crap. thats why they need sexy ladies to distract you. buy UPB devices if you wanna to home automation. I stopped using x10 ages ago and started using a company called controlscape for my landscape lighting controls www.controlscape.net.
no nudie ladies on this site.
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01-25-2009, 09:33 PM
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I also like the Panasonic cameras...
I have played with a few Swann systems. They have a few cheap kits with different camera options, they are a step above X10. Not bad for the money, but it really comes down to what you are using it for and what your expectations are.
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01-25-2009, 10:10 PM
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thanks a lot ive been looking at panasonic. they look like nice units
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01-25-2009, 10:21 PM
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These "ladies" were not displayed on the page link I provided, and as I stated I don't know too much about their cameras, but have used some of the remotes they sell. And those work ok for me.
Now upon further inspection of the site.....I may just have to check out this "scratch and dent" sale......
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01-26-2009, 03:21 AM
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Being a cctv specialist. I can tell you Ademco does not make cctv. Pelco and Bosch make superior CCTV products..cameras and dvrs. It all comes down to what kind of budget your customer has and what your profit percentage is. Pelco and Bosch are pricey. You can go the generic route if you wish. Send me a PM if you need some help.
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01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
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I see adverts for camera's with a woman prominant in the ad many times. Usually semi-clad. I believe this is a lure to sell discreet camera equipment to peekers. Good fast way to land in jail and not collect your $200.
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01-27-2009, 05:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowforthecones
Being a cctv specialist. I can tell you Ademco does not make cctv. Pelco and Bosch make superior CCTV products..cameras and dvrs. It all comes down to what kind of budget your customer has and what your profit percentage is. Pelco and Bosch are pricey. You can go the generic route if you wish. Send me a PM if you need some help.
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Yes they DO. Honeywell.
Some of the Better Stuff out there.
I also used to use Ikegami and Panasonic.
"CCTV/Surveillance
Ademco offers a wide selection of CCTV and surveillance solutions for applications in retail, corporate, petrochemical and government use."
http://www.ademcosecurity.com/solutions/cctv.html
Last edited by MALCO.New.York; 01-28-2009 at 04:50 AM.
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01-27-2009, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowforthecones
Being a cctv specialist. I can tell you Ademco does not make cctv. Pelco and Bosch make superior CCTV products..cameras and dvrs. It all comes down to what kind of budget your customer has and what your profit percentage is. Pelco and Bosch are pricey. You can go the generic route if you wish. Send me a PM if you need some help.
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Can you post a few specific model names/numbers? I'm interested in 4-8 channel DVR based systems.
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