Cat5e For Phone

JamesNLA

LMAO.....Her People...haaaahaaa

Gaius Baltar

There is nothing more retarded than running Cat 6 in a house.

mdshunk

Do you mean except for a person insulting a respected member's wife on his third post?

thom

Do any of you have real-life experience with combining phone (1 or 2 lines) with a network on cat 5-E? I've been told by "experts" that it will work fine and other "experts" that the phone will corrupt the network communication. Since the "experts" disagree, I'm wondering if anyone has actually tested this.

mdshunk

It was on the plans that way for a motel I wired with network in every room. I guess it worked. I don't know. I got paid, anyhow.

GregS

I ran it in my house. Was my initiation experience with cat6 runs and termination. I learned, and now I can apply it elsewhere.

I have no quad/cat3 running in my house for phones at all. I just patch the cat6 ports into the phone system and away I go.

A constant work in progress:
http://www.phonejacks.ca/images/setup-1-full.jpg

Gaius Baltar

Your buddy's wife, is she planning on implementing a 10GBaseT network in her house?

At the risk of insulting you and your sensitive friends, installing Cat 6 in a house is retarded.

Gaius Baltar

This installation would not be ANSI/TIA/EIA 568-B compliant. Conspicuous by it's absense is is any mention of the layer 2 protocols running over the Cat 5e. Also worth knowing is whether the phones are analog or digital.

Assuming 10BaseT or 100BaseT, this installation would work but would have problems you would probably never know about. For example, when an analog phone rings, it will create enough CROSSTALK to wash out the ethernet protocol on the adjacent pairs. This would slow down data transfer but would probably not be noticed.

IT would work, no doubt about it, but it's a bad practice because if they upgrade to 1000BaseT, they will then need all four pairs and your phone lines will prevent that upgrade.

Your idea about smuggling the phone lines in with the data is actually a pretty common practice. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do, but just realize that your network does not comply with any standards.

Gaius Baltar

That's a seriously hairy ass install. If you plan on doing that for a paying customer I'd suggest a Structured Media Center. I feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle with all you Cat 6 enthusiasts, but Cat 6 simply cannot be installed in a house in a standards compliant fashion. Your installation for example, is not even ANSI/TIA/EIA 569 complaint.

Just installing a cable with "Cat 6" printed on the jacket does not make it a Cat 6 network. And if your not going to really install a Cat 6 network, why buy Cat 6 cable?

jdeihs

I know that I may be late here with information in regards to the "daisy chain" however I feel I must reply. The biggest reason that you do not daisy chain phones is that in the event one jack or the "out line" has an issue all jacks following that one will no longer work. Daisy chaining will only cause problems for you the installer, home owner and any future tecnician. You done the right thing by taking out the daisy chain in te coax. I recommend installing atleast 2 coax cables in the LR, MB and bonus room. All other romms should be ok with just one coax. If you install 2 in the above locations then the home owner has great options for Directv, Dish Network and cable due to some of these receivers are requiring two coax inputs.