Wood Deck Question ????

davinci

we are installing all new windows and siding for a homeowner and will sub out the wood deck and a patio door. here is what i was told by a PROSPECTIVE sub...for a 14 x 15 deck 8 foot above the ground and no stairs as well as making an opening and installing a patio door.

the deck will be 8 foot off the ground and attatched to the house. it will be all wood and NO STAIRS. it will be 210 square feet 14 x 15. they are charging me $4400 for just labor; which is about 21 bucks a square foot.
they said material will probably be about 2000?
also i want a sliding door put in which will lead to the deck; they have to put a whole in the wall,frame out the door and install it. they are charging me an extra 1500 for that.
1500 is JUST labor.

DavidC

Haven't found your question but assume it's about the price. Did you talk to any prospective subs before you quoted the job?

Good Luck
Dave

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BuiltByMAC

I read through your OP twice, the only question I see is "they said material will be about 2000?"

I don't know how to answer that question - "wood" is a pretty generic term for a contractor.

Mac

neolitic

If you don't think their skills are worth
that much, you should keep looking til you
fin someone who is.

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davinci

its pressure treated wood and of course railing; nothing fancy.

PA woodbutcher

So the question is......Is it worth $4,400 for the deck? Doors can be a pain int he arse sometimes. Whats the house framed with? What kind of siding and what's on the interior wall.

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neolitic

Forget the square foot price,
which doesn't count the
railing anyway.
How many square feet
do you work a day?
Maybe you think more about
how many hours in a day?
If they have tools, and trucks,
and insurance, and pay taxes
and SS...I'm guessing they are
trying to clear $35-$40
an hour in wages.
Do you want to hire a carpenter
who is worth less than that?

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Chris G

It seams a tad high, but without knowing all the details, it could be a tad low. You won't know until you call someone else.

How is the access to yard? Free standing or anchored to house? There are many variables. 8 feet high can be a pain the arse. Lots of ladder work.

I don't know that I would want a deck builder open a wall and put in a door.

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John Hyatt

O Man,I could really go for the blood on this one, I mean straight for the eyes then the knee sweep and a ice pick in the spine.


To day and To day only I am sick to death with the idea that>>> Contractors,Carpenters, in fact any Tradesmen is not worth his Money<<<

Why dont you build the GDFT your self. J.

PA woodbutcher

Who's diggin the holes?

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neolitic

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bert0168

Without all the details, that doesn't sound too bad.

Why does it matter anyway, UNLESS you already quoted the HO a price which is less than the subs price .

If that isn't the case, then tack on your take, tell the HO the price and there you go.

As a roofer, why would you be subbing this job and not just referring a deck guy to the HO?

DavidC

O.K., now I'm offended :>) I build decks, open walls, play with electricity and look at plumbing while wanting to touch it.

Was I supposed to put in a door after I opened that wall?

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orson

The deck labor sounds a little high to me but too, but again there are variables here we are not privvy to, the least of which is your location.

The door price has just way to many friggin variables to even venture an opinion.

Here's a thought: just find some Mexicans to do it for a couple hundred bucks, a carton of smokes and a case of budweiser.

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enforcer

i'm in jersey and those prices are NOT high. the door prices seem pretty good actually. i get about 650-700 for a single entry and about 700 for a patio door. if there is lots of wood rot in the entry door i tack on a bit.
the deck,most guys i know charge about 25 bucks a square foot where i live and add a few more for a higher deck. trex or timbertech is a bit higher.
we don't do decks but have contracted them out and made a few bucks off the top,probably what you are doing. just make sure you know the guys work.

Brock

I'd do it for that as the sub. It's in the ballpark.

On the other hand if I was the GC and subbing it out, (which we rarely do) I wouldn't pay out more than 10 bucks per foot on the deck and no more than $800 for the door. Ton of good deck guys cheap in my area though.

deckman22

Maybe us deck guys ought to sell roofing jobs then call a roofer, ask what they want for the job then get on here & question their pricing.

And as far as questioning whether a deck builder has the ablility to cut a hole in a wall & then install a door, that's darn near as bad especially to do it here.

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neolitic

Uuuuh, left out a couple pieces there eh?

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Mike Finley

I have to wonder and I'd like a serious answer -

Why would any contractor reply to a question like this and say the price is too high? What exactly is the fu*king motivation for some of you? - To work as cheap as possible???????

Here's the answer - Sounds like a great price.

Wow! Contractors are so fu*king stupid it blows me away, you're all involved in a race to the bottom as fast as you can get there!

ARGHHH!

deckman22

Neo, what's the matter didn't get any tonight? You know how to put in a door & so do I, ain't about to spell it out step by step.

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