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Old 03-18-2011, 02:13 PM   #1
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Timbertech Vs Azek Decking


Any thoughts on AZEK decking? I do not like the way you have to face screw them. I use Timbertech I like the way they are installed with on screw through the face of the deck, and I know the material. I have a client who wants Azek decking I tried to convince then but no luck.
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:40 PM   #2
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Azek can be hidden fastened using the HIDFast system.

It works quickly and works well.

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I'm like you I like Timber Tex better, Azex is ok cost too much & the fascia is crap.
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Just use the Azek ... They are both good products. We usually recommend Timber Tech also ... but why paint yourself in the corner. I try and sell our craftsmanship over one certain product, especially if you are making the same margin.

Most of the time the deck is only as good as the installer more than a product !
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I love timber tech but have used AZEK when the customer was beyond conversion to TT

Hidfast is the way to go for AZEK.

The customer wants what they want.

Use hidfast and earn the sale
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What makes you say that? Fastened properly, I've never had a problem with it. If you DON'T fasten as Azek recommends, you will have problems. I've seen several decks built by "deck contractors" where the fascia is warping and buckling because it wasn't done correctly.

You have to be very careful trying to talk a client out of a product they want to use. Push them too much and they will take their business elsewhere.
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We did a ton of Azek last year, mostly Brownstone, and largely due to a smokin' price we had. Even with just tan Trapeze it looked pretty good. Hidden fastening is definately cleaner and we might pick up a Hidfast this year if we have another run on it. Headcoats are not bad, but a little spendy. So far this year it is Evolutions or Horizon neck and neck.

Here is one we did about a year ago with tan Trapeze and I just stopped in today because the gate was open and the dog was chasing me down the street. I put him in and checked out the deck. It looked just like the day we left it, I would not be afraid to use it at all.
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I finished my deck last year. I used the kona as a border and the brownstone as the main. The hidfast system was great. It was really hard to find the gun here on longisland but I ordered one and it worked wonders. I am a lineman by trade and wont be using it anymore. If anyone local wants the gun (for sale) drop me a line.

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Timber Tech xlm and azek are very similar however the tt has a more matte finish and desirable texture.

In addition to the hid fast you can use a clip system like Hidden link or tracks for the azek. The gun is ideal if you build multiple decks per season.
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We are just finishing up on an Azek deck installed with Cortex, looks great and should last a long time. One thing was the picture framing though, I didn't account for that and we really needed to do it to cover the raw edges. Either that or run the rim up over the edges, but I don't like that look.
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Can't blame the material for that its on the design/builder end. As well both Azek and TimerTech XLM have similar cores.

With wood decking its nice to avoid any visible end grain anyways.
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How do you cover the edges on the stairs being that the rim cover would have exposed edges?
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How do you cover the edges on the stairs being that the rim cover would have exposed edges?
nosing with mitered corners
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nosing with mitered corners
That sounds about like how I do mine. I do a limited return so I don't have a huge miter in the corners.




Before filling in the treads.
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That sounds about like how I do mine. I do a limited return so I don't have a huge miter in the corners.

Before filling in the treads.
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How do you cut that ?
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That sounds about like how I do mine. I do a limited return so I don't have a huge miter in the corners.

Before filling in the treads.
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How do you cut that ?
I used the chopsaw and just finish the inside corner with a chisel.
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Thoose limited returns look great.
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Thoose limited returns look great.
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That sounds about like how I do mine. I do a limited return so I don't have a huge miter in the corners.




Before filling in the treads.
I really like the way you did those mitres.
I have been doing them with full width boards, but I think I may just give your way a try.
Are you doubling the outside stringers?
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I really like the way you did those mitres.
I have been doing them with full width boards, but I think I may just give your way a try.
Are you doubling the outside stringers?
No double on the outside stringer here.

I made the return 2 1/4" so I would have half bearing on the stringer 3/4" and then cover the 1/2" rim cover there, and then I still have 1" of nosing.

Thanks for the compliments guys!

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