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Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
It was the end of the day and the last footing dug and what do you know BAM!!!!!!!! hit the side of the septic. Im going to call the inspector on monday but in the mean time im just throwing it out there can i put a sonar tube up against the tank? Thanks
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The Duke
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
Do you mean a sonotube?
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
yes that is what i mean you guys are so critical
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
The bearing must be on undisturbed soil, which would be at the level of the bottom of the tank.
You've got a little digging to do Monday. ![]() I'm surprised the "sonar" did not detect the tank before you started.
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
Do you have or know the soil compaction numbers. In our area you can if the soil is at 3300 psi compaction rate and is verified by a soil test report.
Are you building with a cantilever and can you move the pier over? Also consider the posibility of eventual damage being blamed on you down the road if there is a problem with the tank! |
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
No i dont know the soil compaction numbers. It does have a 2' cantilever allready and im allready pushing it back about 4" no big deal though. Ill figure it out, ill put a steel beam in there and just shoot right over it. lol The building inspector will tell me what to do hahaha
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
is the deck in the way to pull the lid for pumping?what happens if the tank needs to be replaced?
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
Down here we are not allowed to build anything within 5 feet of the tank - Even if it was allowed, I definitely wouldn't want to be right up against it
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic SystemQuote:
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
The deck will over hang the tank by 2' and no its not covering the lid. I just have to find out if there is anything about how close anything can go near it. I cant find anything in the code book.
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
12' x 28' deck with 2 x 10 joists with an overhang of 2' feet.
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
i will get it in writing for sure but what you did make me think of was what about a 3' overhang. then that way im a foot away from the tank and i should be ok. except ill be re-digging my holes. oh well it was easy digging.
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The Duke
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
I'm just checking! Geesh! I didn't know if you were putting in a deck or checking for fish in the septic tank
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
Does the pier in question support a beam end?
What is the current cantilever of the beam, not the joists? What is the size of the beam? Can you draw a diagram of location of beam,piers and septic tank...or give us a complete description textually? Off the top of my head, I don't know where you'd go looking for a code specific reference but I'd stay 5' away, like SLS spoke of. You are probably going down 4' or so, you'd want at least that much space laterally from any disturbed soil. You might be able to work around the tank by dropping in 2 piers and an angled beam but I'm just guessing until you can give us a description of the layout. Mac P.S. - I would caution you about following whatever advice 'deck king' had for you. He's not proven himself to be anything more than a nuisance who runs hard and long w/ erroneous facts. |
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
12'x27' 6" deck 2x10 joist with an overhang of 2'. footing currently at 6'10"1/2. the footing in question is the center footing with me hitting the short side of the tank. the tank is at an angle.
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The Duke
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
Yeah...me too. You must be new to the game so I'll give you some slack.
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic System
P.S. - I would caution you about following whatever advice 'deck king' had for you. He's not proven himself to be anything more than a nuisance who runs hard and long w/ erroneous facts.[/quote]
Yea, go ahead and listen to " big mac for brains" and all your deck will support is the crap that so effortlessly flows from the special sauce soaked mentality. =
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Re: Sonar Tube Next To A Septic SystemQuote:
Read through his threads. How do you keep talking with both feet in your mouth?
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