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Old 06-21-2009, 10:57 AM   #41
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[quote=DecksEtc;705563]Perhaps, but he asked to see a picture of a gate I built so I obliged him.

This is boiling down to a difference is personal taste. I never said that those brackets don't work, I was just taught to never use them and I persoanlly think they look terrible.

We'll have to agree to disagree 5star.

BTW, those bracket kits are only $20 here in Canada.[/quote


thanks, im plannig a trip there, to toronto to visit family. i will buy some to keep in inventory!

i dont get to many calls for gates 3k and up! usually they just want to keep the kids,or pets in! so for me those brackets are a life saver. (JUST THE SCREWS THAT COME WITH THEM SUCK!!)

if someone asks me for a gate when im pricing a deck, i will throw one in at no charge,and it wont break the bank and be solid for years to come!

People always seam to sign a check faster when they feel they are getting something for FREE these days!
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:58 AM   #42
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Overkill maybe, but with the crossbuck design when weight is applied to the active side of gate, for example a child hanging/swinging on the gate, while the one brace is under tension, the other is in compression. If properly fastened, this gate is indestructable.

When kids are involved, NOTHING IS INDESTRUCTABLE
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When kids are involved, NOTHING IS INDESTRUCTABLE
In light of this new evidence, I withdraw my previous statement.
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I thought those brackets worked out great. The thread reads "sag free gate on a budget". I dont understand no one can ever post something here without someone trying to knocked it down or out do it.
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I thought those brackets worked out great. The thread reads "sag free gate on a budget". I dont understand no one can ever post something here without someone trying to knocked it down or out do it.
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I thought those brackets worked out great. The thread reads "sag free gate on a budget". I dont understand no one can ever post something here without someone trying to knocked it down or out do it.


I think I know what you are saying. Maybe
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I thought those brackets worked out great. The thread reads "sag free gate on a budget". I dont understand no one can ever post something here without someone trying to knocked it down or out do it.
thats what i was talking about, sag free gates and nice quick way that wont hurt the pocket!

i think i posted a nice gate for a simple deck! and others are posting their trophy gates that cost more than the decks itself
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gus and mark,

are those gates of your own design? either way, very well done!
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not so much in the actual building of, but the quick in-expensive fixing of a gate for me has been square'n up corners and use long exterior screws... then run a stainless steel turnbuckle from outside bottom corner to inside top corner and tighten til right! works like a charm...
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Now wait a sec Bubba....3' x 5' econ gate 2x6 ripped to 2 5/8'' stock, joints done the LoneFramer way with an x in the middle screws con adhesive, 3/4 pt on one side, cheep 4'' hindges painted black,simple side catch around $30. Less than that if your on a Job and use all the little shorts around 45 min. No sag and no stupid little brackets.

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gus and mark,

are those gates of your own design? either way, very well done!
Can't take credit for the design. The white gates are at a kitchen designer's home that we do work for and that her design.

I stole some aspects from them for my gate.

My gate may not be a blow and go gate but it is pretty quick. I think I spent about 4 hrs in the shop on it.
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Now wait a sec Bubba....3' x 5' econ gate 2x6 ripped to 2 5/8'' stock, joints done the LoneFramer way with an x in the middle screws con adhesive, 3/4 pt on one side, cheep 4'' hindges painted black,simple side catch around $30. Less than that if your on a Job and use all the little shorts around 45 min. No sag and no stupid little brackets.

The Gate is done Dude. John Mon
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A couple of very quick gates for my garden. 5/4x6, all lap joints, PL adhesive, SS screws. On gates like these i build the section as one piece, then went back and cut it after it was hinged, creating two gates, this increases the likelyhood of perfect alignment as it pertains to the nature of the wood. G

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Here's a picture of my $20 gate. The GrandKids and cats love climbing on it. Hasn't sagged in the six or seven years it's been hanging.
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From my experience gate kits and brackets do no good on a SYP PT gate.

The weak points in the gate are the twisting and the sagging.

The additional diagonal keeps the gate from twisting when notched.

There is no need to double miter the diagonals as it really is not helping any of the issues.

Keep in mind this thread is for a "Sag free gate on a budget". No need to over analyze it use it or don't, after a quick ride through any neighborhood I am sure there are more than a few that need to review this thread.

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Ok, here is my own 16 year old gate. I replaced the post on the right a couple of weeks ago. All of the pickets were from recycled material, removed from previous projects.

The earlier gates I posted were my details based upon client ideas and/or pics.
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Any Gate with a Cat on it is a great Gate.

To understand a Girl,take her Mother out to a long lunch, sooner or later she will turn out just like her.


To understand a Cat, first figure out what he will do anyway,then take credit.


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