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Old 06-19-2009, 01:38 PM   #1
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Sag Free Gate On A Budget


I figured I would post these instructions on how to build a sag free gate on a budget. I am tired of seeing crappy gates all over the place that are falling apart. The gate doesn't take very long at all to build and it is very inexpensive.

I start by mitering the the tops and sides and putting one screw in each corner to hold them in place, then I lay my first diagonal across and mark the cut. I always run the diagonals from the bottom side to the upper top.

I then lay another diagonal mirroring the one previously set into place. I mark both of the angles at the ends and the angles at the overlap on both boards.
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Old 06-19-2009, 01:40 PM   #2
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I then notch the two diagonals to accept each other.
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Do we get to see how to build a birdhouse next?...........
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I set both diagonals back into place and start screwing the gate together. I put two toe-screws at each joint (on larger gates I add PL to the joints). Flip the gate over and repeat the screwing process.
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Finish the gate off using a good set of 8" strap hinges.
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Do we get to see how to build a birdhouse next?...........
It's really sad that this is actually something that many people need to see.
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Is that one RHS or LHS?
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Stanley sells a kit for that
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Stanley sells a kit for that
Those things do not work and thay are not cheap.
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Shouldn't the ends of the cross members have double 45's so they catch both the horizontal and the vertical sides of the frame?...
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looks like your guard is stuck on your saw

I've built a few like that...
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I'm sure some people will benefit from this thread Curapa. Cool post.
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It's really sad that this is actually something that many people need to see.

I could not agree with you more,thanks man. I build them the same way with out the dap out. Con adhesive and ss screws its the x diagonal that makes it work along with roller bearing hindgs. I see those total crap gates all the time as well. Go Get Em!!! and thanks again. JonMon
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Nice.

But personally, nothing beats one of those $60.00 date frame kits. Put one on my 48" wide cedar gate 9 years and go and the thing still closes absolutely true.
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I found these brackets to be the best, and you can make the gates any size you want!

The only thing is the screws that come with the kit are garbage,and should be replaced with deck screws! they cost about $40 for the kit and the hinges are welded on!

takes about 15 min to make a perfect sag free gate!
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I found these brackets to be the best, and you can make the gates any size you want!

The only thing is the screws that come with the kit are garbage,and should be replaced with deck screws! they cost about $40 for the kit and the hinges are welded on!

takes about 15 min to make a perfect sag free gate!
I might be easy but they look like a DIY'er did it AND they look like crap.

Sorry.
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Do we get to see how to build a birdhouse next?...........
nope. cranbrook2 took care of that...
http://www.contractortalk.com/f30/ex...ood-pics-5591/
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Shouldn't the ends of the cross members have double 45's so they catch both the horizontal and the vertical sides of the frame?...
only if the gate were a perfect square... otherwise, their angles would depend on the width/height of the gate.
seems like a decent way to solidify the joint to me...

Good thread, Curapa...
I would think, in addition to the toe screws, dropping 6" HeadLocks into predrilled holes (marked in red) would help prevent too much twisting in the pt material.

No offense to the bracket users but a deck pro can build 'em true and strong w/o metal brackets -

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only if the gate were a perfect square... otherwise, their angles would depend on the width/height of the gate.
seems like a decent way to solidify the joint to me...


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Nope...90 degrees is 90 degrees no matter square or rectangle....


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Nope...90 degrees is 90 degrees no matter square or rectangle....

Sorry built by mack is right here.
If your gate was 4'x8' and you did the crass brace as you showed it would only go to the center 4' mark.
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Sorry built by mack is right here.
If your gate was 4'x8' and you did the crass brace as you showed it would only go to the center 4' mark.

Yep...my bad...

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