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Old 09-10-2006, 12:40 PM   #1
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Ok this is for a friend of mine....

North Tarrant county Texas.

He has over five hundred feet of fence.

The job is.... Remove 135' of 3 1/2" 6' "dogeared" fence panels from existing metal polls, salvage fastner hardware, replace with prebuilt panels from Home Depot, 135' includes 1 36" Gate. Then prime and paint the replaced portion of fence.

He has a stack fo $500.00 gift cards from home depot and asked if I would mind useing them to purchase materials. I don't mind at all since he is a friend but I want to charge a fair reate amd make good money and he is not asking for any special deal on labor, he just needs the work done and wants to get rid of some of the gift cards.

I think this is a 3 day job tops for two guys. One @ $15.00 and one @ $13.00 per hour....

I don't expect to have to replace any poles, the wood is just starting to rot in areas and look bad overall.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance....

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Old 09-10-2006, 02:58 PM   #2
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Where does a guy get a stack of $500 gift cards at Home Depot?
Are you sure that no alarms will go off when you use them?
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Where does a guy get a stack of $500 gift cards at Home Depot?
Are you sure that no alarms will go off when you use them?
LOL.... no he travels alot and somehow this is somehow tied into either frequent flyer miles or credit card purchaces.

I have known this guy for over five years, We train in the martial arts together. He is CEO of a local PT rehab hospital. Totaly lagit.....

Any thoughts on the fence work? I was thingking somewhere between $12oo.oo to $1500.00 labor. I hate bidding work for friends. He has the money and isnt asking for a deal, just wants to get the work done, I figure the labor will cost me a little less than $700.00 plus handleing the materials and dump fee's for getting rid of the old fence.

Does that sound high to you guys? or am I leaving a lot on the table?

Thanks again.
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Your time seems reasonable, (if you're painting by hand).
But is $12 - $15/hr. reasonable rate for your labour? That sounds awfully low to me.

OOPS I just noticed that's the rate your paying your labourers. Never mind.

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I just so happen to be in a fence bidding mood, although I actually think these prices are a little low- especially painting

Remove existing fencing ------------------------------------500
Pick up materials, deliver, stage 62 panels @ $10-------------620
Install 62 panels @ $20-------------------------------------1240
Make and install gate---------------------------------------200
Prime & Paint 2 coats 6000SF @ 1 SF per minute @ $25/hr---2500
Subtotal---------------------------------------------------5060
Overhead 17.5%-------------------------------------------885.5
Profit------------------------------------------------------297.28
Job Total--------------------------------------------------6242.78

I was going to say it would save you alot of hassle to just cut him a check for about 5000 and save yourself a lot of hassle but when I re-read your post you are only replacing 135'? so that is a third of what I figured in which case it looks like you are in the ballpark. Can you spray the paint?. It sounded like removing 135' and installing 500', I just felt like doing a little math anyways so there you go


That is too funny.... cut him a check for 5k.....
Yes I have a spray rig on the trailer.... man thanks so much for the look. I'll put these numbers in a file for future use......

What if I had need posts... Or are you out of the "fence bidding mood"?
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Here in Toronto I charge $5/ft to remove and dispose, including dump charges. 135x5 = $675.00
I pay about $6-8/ft labour to my subs. Say $7 so that equals 945.00, plus markup.
I charge $6-8/ft for stain, including stain, (we don't usually prime) so another $1000, total plus or minus $3000 or so.
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Thanks again guys, I just called him and told him $1500.00 for the labor and haul off and estimates the materials @ about $800.00 or so. He acted like I was high. I asked if he had any bids, he said he did and would pull them out tonight and call me back. I'll keep you guys posted.

BTW $1500.00 + $800.00 = $2300.00 / 135ft = $17.03 plft. no posts.
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I know I'm probably going to catch crap for asking this on my first post here, but I give you my word that I'm not a H/O. I recently took over my fathers contruction business as he is getting too old. I have been running the show now for almost two years and I have made a ton of mistakes along the way. My younger brother works with me too. He runs the crew, I do all the sales, marketing/admin.

We recently started doing fencing along with siding and windows and remodels. (My brother knows his stuff and dad still pitches in as an advisor of sorts). So anyhow my brother knows fencing, he can build almost any fence out there, problem is is that I'm not real confident in any of the methods I have found for pricing it.

I have been told to charge X amount per foot depending on the type of fence. I have been told to match my labor to the material costs.

After reading this thread it appears that many of you have a different approach to pricing out your fencing. I understand the concept that I need to price it according to what I need to make to be profitable and solvent. But some different methods at how to arrive at those numbers would certainly be helpful.
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Welcome aboard Rookie .....

Have you searched around here yet?

Lots of info, plus you can ask a specific question by starting a new thread...

Good Luck.
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I know I'm probably going to catch crap for asking this on my first post here, but I give you my word that I'm not a H/O.
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