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Old 09-20-2009, 01:30 PM   #41
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My Hitachi still brings the luv!

I don't know what y'alls codes are, but here we are metal applying freaks.

When I see 8 or 10 MST48s or MST60s...I smile. My Hitachi makes metal shooting a breeze.

I use it at least once per project. Well worth the price.

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Old 09-21-2009, 12:34 AM   #42
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Ken, at 34, I hadn't yet felt the repercussions of 16 years of framing in the Northeast climate. We hand nailed everything for the first 2 or 3 years, until we saw the benefits of air-nailing. We never had any type of lift until I was 12 years into it. Mostly due to restrictive lot sizes in a shore community.
I have reached a point now, at 44, where all the abuse has had a cumulative effect on my body and all the minor injuries over the years have come home to roost. I guess when the next building boom comes along, I'll be the D-bag boss that does nothing but layout and point fingers. At least now I have an understanding of why things were the way they were. Wish I would have listened to his warnings about working smarter and not harder.
Yeah I know, it can hit anyone at different times, maybe at 60, maybe at 25. I rarely do any intensive hand banging though.
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I take back what i was going to say

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Old 09-29-2009, 07:33 PM   #44
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The OP is about guns that shoot joist hanger nails, not framing guns. They are not very much $. Sometimes refered to as palm nailers.
Well, they make both, as stated above me...
I suggest getting both!

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It depends what kind of job it is. I just did a deck 44 feet long with 2 x 6 hangers, 4 Tico nails per hanger. I set all the joists and installed the hangers in 2 hours nailing the Tico's by hand. If I had a positive placement nailer, I probably would have gotten it done in 1 hour 57 minutes? Buying the gun wouldn't be worth it to me.
With the PP nailer you would have had all the hangers in within 20 minutes. Add 10 more minutes if you needed to add hurricane ties as well...
1h57m, maybe if you had to drive back home 1st because you forgot the gun...

I use the Stanley Bostitch 21° plastic collated framing nailer that switches to a positive placement nailer
1 gun, covers framing nails upto 3.5" & does both 1.5" & 2.5" PP nails
The nails have to be ordered in, but I keep them on-hand
It also works great on white wood installing rafter ties...

There is NO WAY I would give up my pp nailer, palm nailer,...
Maybe these guys should go back to wood-drift nails & t&g connections...

What year is this anyway?

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This one seems like a good deal, but not much time left...ends in just a few hours.

Senco HN150 1-1/2 Inch Joist Hanger Nailer for $65

http://www.tooliday.com/
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I used to use the Hitachi working for a large framing company. They work good when they work, but they are not very durable, they will break after a little wear and tear. I think the cost in maintaining them will almost outweigh the money you save in time using them. Someone told me the Passload is way more reliable, but I haven't tried them.
That is probably the difference.

Us guys that work just ourselves or have a small crew we can look after our tools properly.

I find in large companies it is much more common for tools to be overly abused.
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Great tips here guys!! Palm nailers are awesome!!
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Old 12-12-2009, 10:27 AM   #48
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I didn't read all the posts but i have seen a Bostitch on Amazon that shot up to 2 1/2" nails as well.
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i've been using the hitachis, and so long as they're lubed, and cleaned every now and again they perform really well. i have both the short and the long magazine versions, but tend to use long mag guns more often (fewer reloads).

as far as the guns paying for themselves. i think owning at least one is a must for anyone who does any amount of framing. hitachis are about 350 a pop i believe, and will save the fingers and joints of the ones you love most (your indispensible (sp?) grunts).
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Well Thank you too all for posting your information.

I know it has helped my decision Greatly...

I am hoping to find these guns in person, and see how heavy this Paslode really is.

Thanks for all the info.
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