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Old 04-23-2009, 04:36 PM   #21
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Poplar is a hardwood, it is just not a hard wood.
I don't care what it's classified as. It's a soft wood to me.

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Old 04-23-2009, 06:35 PM   #22
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So we'll just make a new catagory for you. Everyone else will call it a hardwood and you can call it a soft wood.
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So we'll just make a new catagory for you. Everyone else will call it a hardwood and you can call it a soft wood.
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:38 PM   #25
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Its defentley " harder " than cedar/redwood.

This is an intersting topic the Guys have tried for a lot of years to market that toasted wood now it seems they have worked their way in a little. The last sample I got was brittle feeling I was thinking its span strength was almost gone. I wonder what joist center it rated for. J.
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So we'll just make a new catagory for you. Everyone else will call it a hardwood and you can call it a soft wood.
am I remembering correctly that hardwoods are defined as deciduous trees and soft woods are coniferous?

But some softwoods, like pine, can be very dense.
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Deciduous trees are trees that shed their leaves for a part of every year. Unlike evergreens, deciduous trees lose their leaves during the cold or dry season, depending on the climate, and remain bare until they grow new leaves each spring. Deciduous trees are often collectively referred to as hardwoods.

The conifers, division Pinophyta, also known as division Coniferae, are one of 13 or 14 division level taxa within the Kingdom Plantae. They are cone-bearing seed plants with vascular tissue; all extant conifers are woody plants, the great majority being trees with just a few being shrubs. Typical examples of conifers include cedars, douglas-firs, cypresses, firs, junipers, kauris, larches, pines, redwoods, spruces, and yews. The division contains approximately 630 living species[1]. Although the total number of species is relatively small, conifers are of immense ecological importance. They are the dominant plants over huge areas of land, most notably the boreal forests of the northern hemisphere, but also in similar cool climates in mountains further south. While tropical rain forests have more biodiversity and turnover, the immense conifer forests of the world represent the largest terrestrial carbon sink, i.e. where carbon is bound as organic compounds. They are also of immense economic value, primarily for timber and paper production; the wood of conifers is known as softwood.
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Don't know why it would not work. Its Janka is about, what? 540. Cedar is maybe 350 or less. If it is actually made weather resistant by the heat treatment, it should work. But why would you use that over Cedar if the price is the same?

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Don't know why it would not work. Its Janka is about, what? 540. Cedar is maybe 350 or less. If it is actually made weather resistant by the heat treatment, it should work. But why would you use that over Cedar if the price is the same?

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its the same cost as clear cedar, well here in Toronto, regular cedar is 1.48/Lft, Poplar is $2.35 Lft, Ipe $4 Lft

and the display has been outside since last year, the sign says no need to stain, and from the looks of it, it hasn't grey like ipe, tiger or cedar

so my next deck ill try to sell it
ill post a pic tomorrow
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The dark Walnut color could be a big selling point to some clients. When I saw my first stack of it at my wood distributor I thought it was Walnut. Even close up, but it had a burnt smell to it close (real close) up. I thought it looked spectacular and was thinking of making some wainscoting out of it. The color is very consistent and I bet it would look great with some satin lacquer on it.
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and the display has been outside since last year, the sign says no need to stain, and from the looks of it, it hasn't grey like ipe, tiger or cedar
That is not entirely correct, if it has not grey'ed then it definitely had a UV protector on it. That is the only issue with Thermally Modified Wood, is that it does grey fairly fast. If they are suggesting that it does not grey then they are not telling the truth. If you don't beleive me buy a board and and leave part in the sun and part covered up for a couple of weeks. You will definitely see the difference. This is a great new product but they should not imply that it will not grey.
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Rotarex

Sorry for coming across a bit heavy. I believe in the product and it does work, just is important for people to realize it will grey unless protected. I see the sign says they have a uv protector on it.

We are in the process of doing a deck for a prize home up in BC with the thermally modified wood. I will post some pictures when done.
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I googled both

Deciduous trees are trees that shed their leaves for a part of every year. Unlike evergreens, deciduous trees lose their leaves during the cold or dry season, depending on the climate, and remain bare until they grow new leaves each spring. Deciduous trees are often collectively referred to as hardwoods.

The conifers, division Pinophyta, also known as division Coniferae, are one of 13 or 14 division level taxa within the Kingdom Plantae. They are cone-bearing seed plants with vascular tissue; all extant conifers are woody plants, the great majority being trees with just a few being shrubs. Typical examples of conifers include cedars, douglas-firs, cypresses, firs, junipers, kauris, larches, pines, redwoods, spruces, and yews. The division contains approximately 630 living species[1]. Although the total number of species is relatively small, conifers are of immense ecological importance. They are the dominant plants over huge areas of land, most notably the boreal forests of the northern hemisphere, but also in similar cool climates in mountains further south. While tropical rain forests have more biodiversity and turnover, the immense conifer forests of the world represent the largest terrestrial carbon sink, i.e. where carbon is bound as organic compounds. They are also of immense economic value, primarily for timber and paper production; the wood of conifers is known as softwood.
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To make things even more interesting, Larches are deciduous conifers... and Live oak is an evergreen hardwood.
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Here is a picture made with thermally modified southern yellow pine. Is harder than Cedar and definitely far easier to maintain.
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