Piecing 6" X 6" Together ...

SLSTech

Yep - it one of those splice that sucker together using scarf joints. Oops, thank goodness I draw on the wood - cut here

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leakygoose

26' 6x6 stone m has the best way ,or steel . big money ,the cost of building on the side of a hill.

Austkaine

The taller pier would work. Otherwise you may consider building a column. I have built several that tall for second story decks above a walkout basement.(total column height 28ft) I used engineered lumber inside the column which comes in 60' lengths and is cut down at the lumber yards. Plus it is considerably stronger. For mine I built a box of TJI's (for straightness) and tripled 2x6 LVL's inside to carry the load of the triple 2x beam. The whole thing was sheathed and stoned but could be sided in your case. This would cost more than a custom order post but probably less than steel and it would look nicer.

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Austkaine

By the way, that is a scarf joint and it's used in timber framing for beams and sills, not for posts.

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PrecisionCandR

I would feel more comfortable with some sore a metal sleeve over the joint or sister some 2x's around it with through bolts to secure maybe... and maybe ask the building inspector for advice and see what he says

neolitic

And this would be a good choice
for a post sunk in the water, how?

Used in posts as well,
often called a dutchman.

Did you actually read the thread?

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Austkaine

Guess I forgot 3 of them were in water. It would work for the 3 that aren't but is probably not applicable for his job and might be too costly.


I've always heard the term dutchman used for a filler piece or patch to cover a defect. Never heard of a dutchman post??

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Willie T

Look up Moment of Inertia. (Rotational moment, too) It's a basic principle we're supposed to understand to get our GC licenses.

The point is you are playing with the shaky side of this law of physics with an unsupported (un-braced) column of this small size and exaggerated length.

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loneframer

Have you looked into an engineered product? We've used some that are rated for above ground. I think they were permapost hi-clear, cant say for positive though.

neolitic

Goes to an old slur against
the Dutch, referring to them
as cheap, hence patching up
a broken post, or whatever,
with a dutchman.
Ever heard of "going dutch?"
Too cheap to spring for the
whole check.....

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casey344

Thought I would post some after pictures ... the job went fairly well, no hiccups and everyone is happy with the results.

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SLSTech

Very nice - also nice trick with the ramp

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Tom M

I cant believe that deck posted in the early thread passed any inspection, nor would I want to be on it. Im not critiquing your effort. Your work is neat, but I dont like the beveled laps. You loose the 1 1/2" bearing ability. The verticle load just got shifted to the bolts themselves. This wedge cut could easily split the post if the bolts fail. If you had an engineer design it like this I would say its okay. I suppose there wont be a large party or load on a stair case.

casey344

We had it engineered and sealed with a stamp from a reputable firm we have used for years. There are (3) 5/8" through-bolts per splice. The engineer called for a 24" of splice, we built them at 36".

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casey344

The first phase of this job was to build a set of stairs leading down to the dock.

40 lbs of concrete per 6" x 6" post hole, everything is through-bolted, framing nails are galvanized 3" (hand driven) spiral shank, screws for decking are Fastenmaster color match coated and the floor joists are on 12" centers (manuf. calls for 16"), picket spacing 3-1/2", pressure treated #1 grade MCQ southern yellow pine and Azek PVC decking.

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Tom M

I'm sure the bolts and the laps will do the job. The bolts were designed for lateral support in the lap and now they do double duty. Compression and lateral. All from the bevel cuts.

You did a great job just laying the dam thing out.

Tinstaafl

Oy. Can I have your customer, or is he broke now? How many balusters altogether?

Just tell us you didn't have to bring the supplies in by boat.

casey344

Not sure if he's broke but he was complaining yesterday about the 5k in electrical work he hadn't figured into this project.

He was pretty anal about his yard but I flagged an agreed to area for material and even a path where he wanted my guys to walk from the front of the house to the back. The stair material was brought in by land and carried down the hill, the dock material was brought in by barge. We use a barge mounted crane to set the tall stuff, drive pilings and help move bundles of material.

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Tinstaafl

I've had a few like that. Bit of a pain to work for sometimes, but it makes you feel good about doing a quality job. You know he'll take care of it.

WarnerConstInc.

Can we get this for the Aqua loggers, it might keep someone from dying!

Turned out nice, I would have bashed my head into a tree halfway through that lay out.