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04-19-2008, 06:21 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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Well as some of you know i posted some pics of a deck i worked very hard on and took pride in( I actually do this work because i love it not because i fell into it) My best bud calls me and asks for a hand on a deck he is building, I say no problem! I ask whats left? he says framing, deckingand railing i say no problem! going to the job i askwhere it is, no sh**t close to where i built mine! come to find out not close but 3 houses down!!!! and it gets better! he quoted the deck at 28 or less a S.F WTF! makin' a profit? hes like i needed the work (whatever) get to the job and ask how big? he says 14x17. odd but whatever. prep siding put ledger boards on and pull measurments for beams and holly S! he f'ed up the footer had a 5' cantalever
 as you can see the quick fix was some stupid 4x4 posts that doubled as a handrail that screams AFTERTHOUGHT! he was pissed i was pissed. I went into helper mode because i was still pissed i didn't get the job. He tryed to do the beam and the footers were so bad that this is the end result of both beams  see how out of plumb this S is! the footers should be formed up and 2'' above grade and his crap was just dumped in the holes and no where near in line or level of sono tubed up. Im just so pissed that i was even on the job! the deck faild inspection beause when i asked him for the bolts for the handrail posts he gave me enough for 1 per post! I said we need 2 per and he said i always use 1. Well it failed because of it this stupid deck is so lack luster to the one i did but im sure he will get all of the deck in the new development because of his GREAT PRICE and the H.O lack of ability to see the diff. in quality  I finished the decking and railing by myself and rolled. Anyway thanks or nothanks for letting me vent! tomorrow i think I'll be on the water! untill then I'll be drinken!
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04-19-2008, 06:39 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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O and yes he made the deck 14 feet so that means we cut 2' off and TOSSED IT! WHY!!!!!
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04-19-2008, 06:44 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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Re: Non Sober Post
my wife asked me "dont i get lonly drinking by myself?" and i said no cause once i drink enough the voices in my head keep me company
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04-19-2008, 07:53 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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I relize i have made an ass of myself so disregard the above and just tell me WHATS THE GOING RATE for a big deck somewhere using somthing
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04-19-2008, 08:10 PM
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Workin' Hard & Havin' Fun
 
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Garrett,
That should have been $32-$40 per sq. ft- I'm assuming it's close by- but it should have been built correctly for that price! ~Matt |
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04-19-2008, 08:28 PM
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Professional Instigator
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Garrett I post here drunk all the time. Most of the time no one notices unless you mention it  One of the many things I like about this forum is you can have great conversations and vent when you had a tough day, someone has been through the same problem and sympathize with you and usually have an answer or solution and if all else fails we have some good laughs at your expense So get drunk, go kayaking, don't drown or hurt yourself and enjoy yourself Last edited by rbsremodeling; 04-19-2008 at 08:31 PM. |
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04-19-2008, 08:28 PM
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Carpenter
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I love your job, LOL.
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04-19-2008, 08:37 PM
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04-19-2008, 08:37 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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Re: Non Sober Post
had some chicken nuggets with the little ones and coming off a good beer buzz. Just had to vent! Seems like my price is too high and someone else gets the jobs only to get lesser quality but they dont seem to care!
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04-19-2008, 08:39 PM
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Pigs In Pearls!
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i used to live in elverson.....years ago...when i was just a wee lad
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04-19-2008, 08:41 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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where do you call home now?
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04-19-2008, 08:43 PM
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Pigs In Pearls!
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chambersburg pa
did ya go to twin valley? |
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04-19-2008, 08:44 PM
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Remodeling Professionals
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Sucks to have integrity doesn't it? That's alright, those customers don't appreciate quality anyway, so by going with the lowballer they get what they deserve when they have to call you next year to fix it.
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04-19-2008, 08:44 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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no, grew up in chester county and went to coateville of all places
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04-19-2008, 08:45 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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Re: Non Sober Post
buildenterprise, thats the problem is he got their money first and im not in the picture!
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04-19-2008, 08:50 PM
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Remodeling Professionals
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I know, everyone says "Don't worry about the lowballers, they'll put themselves out of business". Problem is, when one goes down ten more pop up! They'll never go away so we've got to learn how to sell on value not price. |
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04-19-2008, 08:50 PM
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Handle It!
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Coatesville....Grand Steel town that turned to Ca-Ca. Absolute drug/slum/poverty haven. Nearly can not touch the R/E there now! MAJOR Gentrification occurring. Looking good too!
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04-19-2008, 08:59 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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yup i catch alot of crap for going through the system i graduated in 94' guess i just have alot of self motivation!
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04-19-2008, 09:22 PM
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John Hyatt
Trade: out door areas, decks,spa room additions,fire pits
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Re: Non Sober Post
Its a deal when the project goes wrong, its usually just dombbb Assss stuff not paying attention or not knowing in the first place.
But anything can be fixed. Change is Change Money is Money what sticks to the Bee is what makes Honey. Low Ball guys are taking over the trade latley, in fact with a few more Tecates I might just think about going over that way!!! What The Fu&&ing Hell!!! just dive in there , You want under the table??? Well just let me get in there with Ya!!! Rack um and Stack um,,,Cash up frount bang bang thank ya Mam!!!!!!! J. |
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04-19-2008, 10:19 PM
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GARRETT RENOVATIONS LLC
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Re: Non Sober Post
I hear ya! its getting a little tighter these days. my wife works in the office and i do the estimating and labor . Starting to wonder if we would be better off working 9 to 5's
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