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Old 05-08-2009, 11:50 AM   #21
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Have you complained to your contractor that your deck has excessive fuzz? I've heard just about every imaginable complaint, but never had someone complain about excessive fuzz. I'd get a good laugh out of that one.

People never cease to amaze me. They wait til their deck is done then complain about crap like "my boards are fuzzy". Did you ever think about looking at the deck boards before they got installed. That's the time to look at them & pick out the ones you don't like, not after they are installed & stained. You are in the deck building industry & you're on here complaining about fuzzy boards, give me a freakin break.
Ok, I'm going to help you since you're so polite.

First, regarding your reading comprehension disorder: it very clearly states in the initial post that the fuzz was discussed with the contractor during construction. Read the posts, buddy!

Second, please don't rely on your limited experience with deck projects, or your clearly superlative customer relationship skills to judge whether "excessive fuzz" is a real concern or not. It was on this deck. That's a given, that's what I'm telling you. What's not clear is how common the problem is, how significantly correlated excess fuzz is to tigerwood material, or what the proper resolutions are. The considerate, respectable pros here and elsewhere have weighed in, and I appreciate it.

Thirdly, I'm in the electrical trade, and I happen to be doing decks. Regardless of my professional credentialing, affiliation, or expertise it never hurts to solicit additional expert opinion on new situations one encounters. In fact, I would argue that the capacity to maturely respect and consider other points-of-view, refraining from unnecessary judgements, is one hallmark of a true professional.

Hope your customers don't hear your snickers, and that your amazement at people never dwindles. Best of luck in your quest to become a true professional!

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Have you complained to your contractor that your deck has excessive fuzz? I've heard just about every imaginable complaint, but never had someone complain about excessive fuzz. I'd get a good laugh out of that one.

People never cease to amaze me. They wait til their deck is done then complain about crap like "my boards are fuzzy". Did you ever think about looking at the deck boards before they got installed. That's the time to look at them & pick out the ones you don't like, not after they are installed & stained. You are in the deck building industry & you're on here complaining about fuzzy boards, give me a freakin break.
Your jumping the gun, excesssive fuzz is possible in just about every species of wood. the cause is very likely shoddy quality control at the milling plant or insufficient procedures.

It is quite possible that the planks were dimensionally planed with a conventional planer which can and does produce irregularaties in just about any kind of wood or the raw lumber was just to moist to properly process. I have read reports on how this and other surface problem first creeped up when magaris became popular and the brazilian mills countered by employing some special german built planer with moving blades/knives configured in some sort of Caterpillar track system which supposedly keeps those irregularities to a minimum.

Andy I don't know if this is practical for your particular situation but can you try sanding the fuzz of with 80 to 120 grit sand paper.
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Your jumping the gun, excesssive fuzz is possible in just about every species of wood. the cause is very likely shoddy quality control at the milling plant or insufficient procedures.

Andy I don't know if this is practical for your particular situation but can you try sanding the fuzz of with 80 to 120 grit sand paper.
Yeah, I just found a piece of scrap that has the same fuzz on it. I'll try sanding it....
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Ok, I'm going to help you since you're so polite.

First, regarding your reading comprehension disorder: it very clearly states in the initial post that the fuzz was discussed with the contractor during construction. Read the posts, buddy!

Second, please don't rely on your limited experience with deck projects, or your clearly superlative customer relationship skills to judge whether "excessive fuzz" is a real concern or not. It was on this deck. That's a given, that's what I'm telling you. What's not clear is how common the problem is, how significantly correlated excess fuzz is to tigerwood material, or what the proper resolutions are. The considerate, respectable pros here and elsewhere have weighed in, and I appreciate it.

Thirdly, I'm in the electrical trade, and I happen to be doing decks. Regardless of my professional credentialing, affiliation, or expertise it never hurts to solicit additional expert opinion on new situations one encounters. In fact, I would argue that the capacity to maturely respect and consider other points-of-view, refraining from unnecessary judgements, is one hallmark of a true professional.

Hope your customers don't hear your snickers, and that your amazement at people never dwindles. Best of luck in your quest to become a true professional!

Nice attitude coming from someone looking for free help from a whole bunch of experts.

Run along now, you've officially worn out your welcome
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Wait a Sec,,,excess Fuzz..... that really got my attention....intersting way of putting it.

Hmmmmmmmm...we should start with raising the grain 101. Say you were working with Red Oak on a table top its all out of the clamps,installed,and ready for finish we are of course puting on a hand rubbed finish soooooooooo its water,sand,water sand, watersand and water sand this knocks off the raised grain so a person can rub the finish on to a Glass finish using Watco or the like,after a while.

But we are talking OutSide finish here you say!!! same deal. Its got nothing to do with the way the S American lumber was milled,or moisture content,or deck pawn dumb ass stuff, or...... well must I go on?? Sometimes the grain raises by its own Self for a lot of reasons same thing with any hardwood.

We call them Whiskers, ipe/tiger wood/masenramduba they all will do this if they take a mind to. And they are a little sharp if you run your hand,or any privet parts,over them.
But are They Excess???? No Class they are not They are just a result , Any WoodWorker would see this reaction and Say" O Man the dammm grain raised now I have to sand the thing!!! " There is Nothing Excess about it just normal woodworking with S American Lumber.

The John Mon wants to remind the Class that I have not got a check from several of you slackers!! Show Me The Money or its kick to the curb with you Frog Faces!!!

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Wait a Sec,,,excess Fuzz..... that really got my attention....intersting way of putting it.

Hmmmmmmmm...we should start with raising the grain 101. Say you were working with Red Oak on a table top its all out of the clamps,installed,and ready for finish we are of course puting on a hand rubbed finish soooooooooo its water,sand,water sand, watersand and water sand this knocks off the raised grain so a person can rub the finish on to a Glass finish using Watco or the like,after a while.

But we are talking OutSide finish here you say!!! same deal. Its got nothing to do with the way the S American lumber was milled,or moisture content,or deck pawn dumb ass stuff, or...... well must I go on?? Sometimes the grain raises by its own Self for a lot of reasons same thing with any hardwood.

We call them Whiskers, ipe/tiger wood/masenramduba they all will do this if they take a mind to. And they are a little sharp if you run your hand,or any privet parts,over them.
But are They Excess???? No Class they are not They are just a result , Any WoodWorker would see this reaction and Say" O Man the dammm grain raised now I have to sand the thing!!! " There is Nothing Excess about it just normal woodworking with S American Lumber.

The John Mon wants to remind the Class that I have not got a check from several of you slackers!! Show Me The Money or its kick to the curb with you Frog Faces!!!
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Okay, I've been watching this for long enough, I guess. Mister Andy, your presence here so far has been nothing but Wocky.

Have you done anything at all to establish yourself here as a professional contractor? No.
Have you contributed any professional expertise to any of the myriad technical threads here? No.
Have you even joined in with any of the off-duty jocularity some of us indulge in at times? No.
Have you contributed any on-the-job war stories? No.
Have you done anything but whine about the deck your contractor built for you? No.

Have you presented yourself as nothing but a homeowner seeking free advice from professionals? YES.

Please go away now.
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Nice attitude coming from someone looking for free help from a whole bunch of experts.

Run along now, you've officially worn out your welcome
Thank you for recognizing the positive attitude-- I wasn't sure you would get it. But I'm glad you did!
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Have you complained to your contractor that your deck has excessive fuzz? I've heard just about every imaginable complaint, but never had someone complain about excessive fuzz. I'd get a good laugh out of that one.

People never cease to amaze me. They wait til their deck is done then complain about crap like "my boards are fuzzy". Did you ever think about looking at the deck boards before they got installed. That's the time to look at them & pick out the ones you don't like, not after they are installed & stained. You are in the deck building industry & you're on here complaining about fuzzy boards, give me a freakin break.
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Him: James told him to call me and ask if I had found that identical forest I was looking for.
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the guy is an electrical engineer and not a homeowner. seems to me he should be welcomed here. as far as I can tell he is legitimate and certainly expresses himself well.

regarding the "fuzz." - i learned something here, especially the suggestion to let the ho pick and choose the lumber. nine out ten times they will say it's fine which covers your tail.
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