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Old 03-15-2010, 07:46 PM   #1
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Freind of mine has a beautiful house on a lake and wants some sort of railing that will not deter from seeing the lake, boathouse, etc...while they sit on the deck that's been "the never ending project" LOL!! He was thinking glass, but the dirty part has him leery, was thinking SS cable but I told him how spendy all that add's upto be in short order and he has ALOT of deck to go around/up/down...etc. and I told him, esspecially if you do the cable to building code, your going to have miles of SS cable LOL!!


Is there anything else out there that's "reasonable" and still give great view?? the 4" sphere thing really screws it up other than cable/glass but figured I'd ask, maybe something I've never seen/heard of before.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:51 PM   #2
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4" hog wire fencing painted black. It comes in sheets and is galvinized (sp)

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Try Fortress aluminum rail sections. They are very low profile and black so they blend in/disappear more.

You really just need to do anything but a 2x2 baluster IMO.
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Check out my thread.

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was thinking SS cable but I told him how spendy all that add's upto be in short order and he has ALOT of deck to go around/up/down...etc. and I told him, esspecially if you do the cable to building code, your going to have miles of SS cable LOL!!


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That deck was 110' long, fittings and cable was $1400: but it needed one more strain to be code compliant.
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That deck was 110' long, fittings and cable was $1400: but it needed one more strain to be code compliant.
It sure looks like it would need more then one strand to be code compliant. A 4" sphere cannot pass between the wires. Recommended manufacturer spacing is 3".

Your posts may be to far apart, as well, according to the mfg's.
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IHI, check out a pic I have under this thread

http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/bench-ideas-75023/

The railing infill is vinyl coated welded wire, stretched within a picture frame. It's nearly invisable, as you can see in the pic.
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This is galv wire and it passes the 4'' sphere test. I've done a few on whidbey island where the ocean view or like this one the forest is a big concern.

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Nothing beats glass... One way to help keep it clean is to use rain-x on it after you clean it.
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You know in all my years of deck building, I have only done two glass railing projects, and they were many years ago. I did not supply the glass.

We did a deck this past summer for a guy that worked for one of the biggest commercial glass installers in our area. Originally he was going to do glass. But, his wholesale costs were prohibitive and he ended up with aluminum balusters.

How does glass compare in costs to other railings?
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IHI, check out a pic I have under this thread

http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/bench-ideas-75023/

The railing infill is vinyl coated welded wire, stretched within a picture frame. It's nearly invisable, as you can see in the pic.
Just looked at the pict, very nice.

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It sure looks like it would need more then one strand to be code compliant. A 4" sphere cannot pass between the wires. Recommended manufacturer spacing is 3".

Your posts may be to far apart, as well, according to the mfg's.
Ours is 4 1/4" which you're right I pulled the plans up on it and it will need 2 more addition wires. But there is no building inspection at this location so the homeowner didn't want to block the view or the added cost. The post spacing is 6' which is fine, I didn't build the deck originally. I only repaired the deck after a tree fell on it so thats why on one end the post are 8' apart and the cables do just find there also.

The cable system I used is adjustable, it takes 2 wrenches and a few minutes. I can make them as tight as a G string on a fat chick or as loose as a ho on 4th street.
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wow i like the look of the SS
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I've use the bullwire rails on many decks back in the day, no longer allowed in the city so not so much anymore. If in the country & no kids I'd use it before glass. I've painted them black too, but what I pita if you have lots of rails.

Another choice is to tier down the deck so the rails are not in the line of sight when looking out the back of the house.

The only glass rail I ever did was about twenty years ago. I don't remember cost, but the install was quick & easy, looked good too.
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You are right Robert, nothing beats glass when you are enjoying the view from you deck.

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You know in all my years of deck building, I have only done two glass railing projects, and they were many years ago. I did not supply the glass.

We did a deck this past summer for a guy that worked for one of the biggest commercial glass installers in our area. Originally he was going to do glass. But, his wholesale costs were prohibitive and he ended up with aluminum balusters.

How does glass compare in costs to other railings?
we pay $3.00 lf for 1/4 temp.

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