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Old 10-06-2009, 01:48 PM   #21
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skid steer with tracks and forks should work

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Old 10-06-2009, 02:08 PM   #22
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What you all aren't thinking about when talking about using a fork is the bottom of the spa. Most spa frames are pretty flimsy, nothing but 2x2's on the bottom with a bunch of foam. The only place solid is the outside walls & loaded on a forklift only one wall will hit on those forks. The weight of the spa bouncing around on those forks while moving thru the someone's yard could well break the frame, the equipment, or worst yet crack the shell. Only way I'd consider that would be to screw a couple of sheets of 3/4" cdx onto the bottom before loading onto the forktruck. It would have to be on flat terrain too. More trouble than using the crane imo.

If the crane has to lift over the house someone will have to sign a waiver on that deal cause those operators don't like booming stuff over houses. I've done it once & had to get HO to sign off on it. 2nd story deck about 20' above grade, HO had no choice but to sign off if he wanted his spa.
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I've also used a crane to successfully place a hot tub on a second story deck.
Give the company your weight and distance specs, they'll figure out which crane they need to use.
Crane disturbs no soil, if that's important.

I'll say this, if you go that route, know how to properly strap the tub.

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What you all aren't thinking about when talking about using a fork is the bottom of the spa. Most spa frames are pretty flimsy, nothing but 2x2's on the bottom with a bunch of foam. The only place solid is the outside walls & loaded on a forklift only one wall will hit on those forks. The weight of the spa bouncing around on those forks while moving thru the someone's yard could well break the frame, the equipment, or worst yet crack the shell. Only way I'd consider that would be to screw a couple of sheets of 3/4" cdx onto the bottom before loading onto the forktruck. It would have to be on flat terrain too. More trouble than using the crane imo.

If the crane has to lift over the house someone will have to sign a waiver on that deal cause those operators don't like booming stuff over houses. I've done it once & had to get HO to sign off on it. 2nd story deck about 20' above grade, HO had no choice but to sign off if he wanted his spa.

you can still use forks but use nylon straps to lift instead. done that before.
i get about 14 ft of lift out of my skid steer so you should have enough to get 7 ft.
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how much we talking for a crane or fork truck?
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how much we talking for a crane or fork truck?
I was quoted $150 for the all terrain fork lift, and $100 for delivery and pickup, so its $250 total.

I don't think I can find anything cheaper, or more effective.
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sounds damn good actually.
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Best way is let the guy who
sold it, place it.

Remember there really isn't
any bottom on the thing.
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This must be one hell of a hot tub to weigh #1000 most are only #650 or so.

I have worked/moved several when working for my fathers biz we used a cart to move them then just manned them into place.
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This must be one hell of a hot tub to weigh #1000 most are only #650 or so.

I have worked/moved several when working for my fathers biz we used a cart to move them then just manned them into place.

Shell Dimensions: 91” x 91” / 231.1 cm x 231.1 cm
Height: 37” / 94 cm
Volume: 380 US gallons / 1,438 liters
Weight Full: 4,178 lbs / 1,895 kg
Weight Empty: 1,010 lbs / 458 kg
Seating: 6

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That is a VERY nice one we used these cheaper ones.
incredible hot tubs dot com

It's bigger around than that one and lighter.
  • Size: 93" x 93" x 34.5"
  • Seats: 6
  • Jets: 80
  • Pump: (2) 6HP GE Pumps
  • Filter: 50 sq ft
  • Gallons: 450
  • Heater: 5.5 KW
  • Dry Weight: 800 lbs
  • Electrical: 220V and 60 Amp GFCI
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It hard to compare Spa because everyone tells you how much the other guy sucks. It sort of like buying a mattress, but not as bad.

I have a local guy that sells and services that specific brand, so that makes it more attractive.

Although Costco has some great deals, and a killer return policy, but I would not want to go through trying to return a spa after jumping through hoops to get it up on the deck.
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I had the Spa guy come out and look at the site yesterday, and he says that we can muscle the spa up the stairs (5.5 ft wide) instead of using a machine.

He uses a "Spa Dolly" which is made for moving these things, and we can use 2x ramps, with supports.

I don't mind getting creative. I'll have someone take some pictures when this all goes down.
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I had the Spa guy come out and look at the site yesterday, and he says that we can muscle the spa up the stairs (5.5 ft wide) instead of using a machine.

He uses a "Spa Dolly" which is made for moving these things, and we can use 2x ramps, with supports.

I don't mind getting creative. I'll have someone take some pictures when this all goes down.
Just out of curiosity prior to this idea, when you inquired on renting the all terrain did they make you show them a Certified Forklift DL or sign a waiver?
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that's close to 2 tons full on a smaller than 8' by 8' foot print... what's the dead load on that? hope you built your deck right!!
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that's close to 2 tons full on a smaller than 8' by 8' foot print... what's the dead load on that? hope you built your deck right!!

The Spa is about 80 lbs per sq foot for the Spa.

The spa deck is 12' x 12', and set on 9 concrete piers, with the 4 under the spa at 20" diameter, which can support up to 6800 lbs each.

Its set on three triple 2x10 beams, with 2x10 joists set at 12" OC, and two rows of blocking.

Its a free standing deck and it will have full-cross bracing on the 6x6 posts.

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Just out of curiosity prior to this idea, when you inquired on renting the all terrain did they make you show them a Certified Forklift DL or sign a waiver?
Nope.

BTW, this is not a union job.
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wow... looks good! looks like it could hold up a tank!!
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wow... looks good! looks like it could hold up a tank!!
YES!! A large fiberglass/plastic TANK with 300+ plus gallons of water and 6 fat- a$$ people sipping margaritas and smoking cigars.

I really wonder what an engineer would have specified....
Is this totally over board, or is it close to what it "should" be?
The cost of over building is relatively low, so I assume an engineer would just over build as well.
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Nope.

BTW, this is not a union job.
I worked non union jobs down here and on one specific I and my boss were the only ones allowed on lulls without risking an OSHA fine for opperating without certifacation.

So when subs needed something moved they just called me or him.

Just didn't know if it was something other states follow,ignore or are even required to have.
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