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Old 11-29-2017, 06:31 PM   #1
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good evening. sometimes we build decks and their ends up being a lot of posts. i typically sink the posts in the ground, tack up joists and beams, make sure everything is level, then cut my posts for beams.

does anyone use lasers to get your post heights? This would seem to save a lot of time. or should i just eliminate posts by selling steel frame decks from here on out? wood sucks.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:27 PM   #2
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Just take jobs with flat yards.....

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Yup, I'd use a laser most every time...
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just order the correct post lengths straight from the lumberyard
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i typically sink the posts in the ground,
Really. In concrete? Just in dirt? Any footings?


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or should i just eliminate posts by selling steel frame decks from here on out?
Do steel-framed decks not have posts, or need to be leveled?? Maybe I should have gone into structural steel construction.


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Really. In concrete? Just in dirt? Any footings?




Do steel-framed decks not have posts, or need to be leveled?? Maybe I should have gone into structural steel construction.










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Steel decks are self-leveling.
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Really. In concrete? Just in dirt? Any footings?




Do steel-framed decks not have posts, or need to be leveled?? Maybe I should have gone into structural steel construction.










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Delta, this thread was intended for deck builders. Steel frames allow longer beam and joist spans; thus, eliminating posts. How many posts? Nearly 50% on my current project. That's a lot less posts to set and level, yes?

Holes are 24" deep by 18" wide and must bear on solid ground. holes <5 from the house go down to the foundation. Oh, and our footers are 6" thick minimum.

We take our decks and business seriously in Northern Va. Steel is a superior product, in my professional opinion. Not sure if your clients can afford it; but, mine can.

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I use lasers for everything.
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Yup, I'd use a laser most every time...
Thanks. I think it's going to be a good thing
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I use lasers for everything.
i feel like lasers might be getting my money for nothing and the chicks for free by comparison.
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AlexADB: the Public school jab was a comment on your lower case 'i' for I....and your confusing/conflating leveling with plumbing columns....

If you'd use wider joist boards, fewer posts would be needed all other things being equal...

Have some explain how three span decking board conditions and Cantilevered overhangs could further reduce structural component sizes and number of pieces.
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AlexADB: the Public school jab was a comment on your lower case 'i' for I....and your confusing/conflating leveling with plumbing columns....

If you'd use wider joist boards, fewer posts would be needed all other things being equal...

Have some explain how three span decking board conditions and Cantilevered overhangs could further reduce structural component sizes and number of pieces.
1) i'm looking for LEVEL CUT LINES FOR BEAMS. not looking to have a laser plumb my posts.

2) using wider joists and 3ply beams are typically not practical. again, this post was for actual builders. i don't need anyone to explain beam or joist span tables to me. i also don't need anyone to explain cantilevers or anything else of that nature.

3) this isn't an english class. i'm pretty sure everyone here understands my communication just fine.

4)went to private school.
5)graduated from business school. (no online bull****)
6)sold and built 12 decks this year. including one 2400sqft project.

furthermore, you have absolutely no idea what the conditions of my job site are. where are the utility lines? is there a big ****ing drainage ditch affecting post layout? etc.

insulting. and coming from a no think. you build with pt lumber. okay? i build with trex and steel. builders only. gtfo

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Delta, this thread was intended for deck builders. Steel frames allow longer beam and joist spans; thus, eliminating posts. How many posts? Nearly 50% on my current project. That's a lot less posts to set and level, yes?

Holes are 24" deep by 18" wide and must bear on solid ground. holes <5 from the house go down to the foundation. Oh, and our footers are 6" thick minimum.

We take our decks and business seriously in Northern Va. Steel is a superior product, in my professional opinion. Not sure if your clients can afford it; but, mine can.

Thanks,
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You're off to a great start. My money is on you getting banned before the night is out.

You ain't the hoss that gets to tell me what thread I post on, and which I don't. I do as I Damn Well Please.

Your opinion about steel is just that, your opinion.

And sinking deck posts in soil is a half-assed and dangerous way to build.

And you know nothing about my clients, what they can afford, or even what part of the country or world I live in.

And telling members to "get the F**K out" when you signed up here 2 days ago to ask a rookie question, is not the way to endear yourself to the forum.



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You're off to a great start. My money is on you getting banned before the night is out.

You ain't the hoss that gets to tell me what thread I post on, and which I don't. I do as I Damn Well Please.

Your opinion about steel is just that, your opinion.

And sinking deck posts in soil is a half-assed and dangerous way to build.

And you know nothing about my clients, what they can afford, or even what part of the country or world I live in.

And telling members to "get the F**K out" when you signed up here 2 days ago to ask a rookie question, is not the way to endear yourself to the forum.



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Sinking deck posts in soil on a concrete footer is a perfectly legitimate way to build. Particularly if the deck is finished with rain escapes. Nothing I do is half-assed.

My opinion on steel being preferable for high-end decks is a professional one. It's also correct.

Asked a rookie questions about 7-8 months ago I think. Which, btw, was met with the same toxicity.

I think about building 24/7/365. There aren't anymore rookie deck building questions for me (no thanks to ct).

How about I tell you this. If you don't have anything nice to say and your first replies are insults-- GTFO

Or go cry to an admin. It's pathetic.
Like I said. Stick with PT. You'll end up getting yourselves into trouble otherwise.

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Wow. You are the one who came in here and talked about wood decks and wondered if you needed a laser.

Maybe you use a water level, or like was suggested steel posts self align with each other or some such nonsense.

What is your hate for lasers? Jeez, 150 bucks gets you decent one, 400 bucks gets you a great one, and it saves you hours of fiddling around. I don't even know of a more accurate way to do it.

Oh, and by the way, 12 decks in a year isn't that many. You better step up your game unless you want it to keep being a hobby.

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Sinking deck posts in soil on a concrete footer is a perfectly legitimate way to build.If you think so??? Particularly if the deck is finished with rain escapes. Nothing I do is half-assed.It's illegal here!

My opinion on steel being preferable for high-end decks is a professional one. It's also correct.Steel rust out in 3 years here cowboy!! It's all PT

Asked a rookie questions about 7-8 months ago I think. Which, btw, was met with the same toxicity.

I think about building 24/7/365. There aren't anymore rookie deck building questions for me (no thanks to ct).

How about I tell you this. If you don't have anything nice to say and your first replies are insults-- GTFO

Or go cry to an admin. It's pathetic.
Like I said. Stick with PT. You'll end up getting yourselves into trouble otherwise.

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keyboard warrior. that's really funny since you're the one who came in here and started throwing around insults. what else can i expect from a pfp such as yours. smh. dry old men please step aside.

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