How Durable Are Cedar Fence Posts Compared To Pressure Treated And Locust?

 
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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How Durable Are Cedar Fence Posts Compared To Pressure Treated And Locust?


Hi There!

Forgive my ignorance but I came across a person that has some cedar fence posts and I have a grape trellis and tree orchard project.

I would like to stay away from pressure treated due to the chemicals I was considering using locust or tamarack-larch which are very rot resistant. Then these cedar posts came to my attention

any thoughts based on your experience?

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:46 PM   #2
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cedar 20 years. cca treated were around 50. not sure on the acq

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what kind of cedar?
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western red gets 20 or so. You're in termite country, so I'd pick based on that.
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I'm in orleans county NY by lake ontario. I realize my screen name mya be misleading
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If cedar is anything like today's redwood, it's no longer very decay resistant and I would not put it in the ground.
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it has a lot more to do with application than product...in other words, a proper installation can make a bad product last longer... where as a poor installation can make a good product bad!
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If cedar is anything like today's redwood, it's no longer very decay resistant and I would not put it in the ground.
+1. If the growth rings are a 16th of an inch, or maybe 1/8th, go for it. You're likely to find 1/2", which will rot immediately.
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Locust .........all the way.
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You should be able to get cypress shipped at a decent rate to NY. Cypress is my goto when cost is an issue since cedar has never really done very well in Fl.

The boys at Advantage lumber aren't far from you in buffalo and have a mill is SC that I know has plenty of cypress within 100miles. call ask for lee, he'll take care of it.
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You should be able to get cypress shipped at a decent rate to NY. Cypress is my goto when cost is an issue since cedar has never really done very well in Fl.

The boys at Advantage lumber aren't far from you in buffalo and have a mill is SC that I know has plenty of cypress within 100miles. call ask for lee, he'll take care of it.
I'm not sure about cedar in the ground, but I work on plenty of cedar homes up here in Tally and don't seem to have many issues.
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Agreed on tally but a way different environment than here in west central coastal Fl. I love Tally and spent a fun 4 years back and forth from there, you guys almost get out of summer up there.

Plus a lot of the older homes (which Tally has a bunch of) have used old growth cedar much tighter growth rings and much better for rot resistance.
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Agreed on tally but a way different environment than here in west central coastal Fl. I love Tally and spent a fun 4 years back and forth from there, you guys almost get out of summer up there.

Plus a lot of the older homes (which Tally has a bunch of) have used old growth cedar much tighter growth rings and much better for rot resistance.

I'll agree with almost all of that, except the part about getting out of summer.....
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thanks everyone! really appreciate the wisdom and feedback. I will be going with locust around the food and PT for deer netting. Had a good deal on the cedar ($3 per 8' post) but a bargin is only a bargin if it wont rot. Best to you all and thanks again

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