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Old 05-18-2008, 03:47 PM   #1
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How To Attach Railing To Rubber Roof?


What method do you guys use to attach the railings on a deck with a rubber roof and sleepers? I was also wondering if anyone had any pictures of a deck done this way. Thanks for any help.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:20 PM   #2
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assuming this roof was never meant to be a deck with railings, you do not have posts going through the roof. that is how you would have been getting your strenth and support for the rails. now all your strenth must come from surface mounted rail system. hopefully you have several points of contact to the home itself. the more solid you get the perimeter sleeper system, the better off you will be. there are some teco brand 4x4 surface mounted brackets available, there strenth is questionable, i did a similar application many years ago, i had custom brackets fabricated to accept the 4x4, i also had the flange run up the 4x4 about 8'', that made a big difference, if you rabbet out the base of the 4x4, and have the bracket made to fit tight, you can then dress the 4x4 without the bracket getting in the way. welcome to the site sparky

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I was planning on bringing up the posts from underneith for the railings but I am not sure how to seal the rubber around the 6x6 post. Is the a boot available for a 6x6 similar to the boots that are used for a round pipe?
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I just saw one they did this way the other day. The deck was a "cap" that sat over the whole rubber roof, and hung down over on three sides, since the deck was cantileavered out of the house. The posts were bolted to the sides of the "cap" where it hung down over. Don't know if I explained that accurately enough, but that's the best way I can say what I saw.
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I bolt the posts to the rim joist. For a little extra I dap out the 4x4 posts 1 1/2'' x the size of the rim, the post lands on the decking an 1 1/2''.

I have a pic on my site.

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I was planning on bringing up the posts from underneith for the railings but I am not sure how to seal the rubber around the 6x6 post. Is the a boot available for a 6x6 similar to the boots that are used for a round pipe?
Uncured rubber will flex enough to allow you to either seam it to the edpm rubber deck, or attach it directly using adhesive meant for rubber.
To counterflash the uncured rubber, you can either kerf the post and counterflash using copper or aluminum, or box in your post, thereby covering the post and rubber.
Although some say sealing tape can be used in place of uncured rubber, I've found in some cases where seaming tape was used, the rubber wasn't flexible enough and did not yield a good bond or seal. Uncured had to be used over the seaming tape.
Good luck.
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I bolt the posts to the rim joist. For a little extra I dap out the 4x4 posts 1 1/2'' x the size of the rim, the post lands on the decking an 1 1/2''.

I have a pic on my site.

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he is on sleepers, there is no rimjoist
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gene,this is an upstairs project with a torch down roof and there is no rim joists. I am thinking a new job at a fast food window for you. J.
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Since I don't know what he's doing either
(deck-on-sleepers, deck-on-joist-on-sleepers?)
I guess I qualify to comment as well!
It seems like Greg Di or RobertCDF had a post
with some surface mount rail-post hardware
not too long ago.
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Well if it's a wood rail I would notch/bolt post to rim joist also, otherwise you could always use surface mounted iron railing.
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gene,this is an upstairs project with a torch down roof and there is no rim joists. I am thinking a new job at a fast food window for you. J.
john, i was telling you there was no rim joist , you told the op how you attach to the rimjoist, i was pointing out that was not applicable because he was on sleepers. then you post the same thing i already said, and suggest a ff restaurant, reread this thread, and head to mcdonalds yourself. G
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If you dont have a rim joists,what is holding up the building????
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If you dont have a rim joists,what is holding up the building????
I don't believe the deck follows the perimeter of the roof, but is on sleepers in the middle. The OP mentioned bringing posts up thru the roof for the railings, which he wouldn't have to do were the deck matching the perimeter.
That's what it appears to be from my porch, anyway.
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I don't believe the deck follows the perimeter of the roof, but is on sleepers in the middle. The OP mentioned bringing posts up thru the roof for the railings, which he wouldn't have to do were the deck matching the perimeter.
That's what it appears to be from my porch, anyway.
that is exactly how i read it, and i believe most people who understand basic roof deck construction would have read it. BURGER KING J.
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Ok I get it,,,do not put the posts in the roof for a lot of reasons, Idea>>> use steel rail system lag the steel posts into the decking and the stringers ( not into the roof )thru the bottom caps<<< I have a local steel guy make this stuff up for me Im sure there is a local in your area. They wiggle around a little but most of the time the permit store goes for it.

I woudent mind working for the burgerking..but they deleted the Western Burger so the deal is off!!!! J.
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what method do you use not to step on tar on a hot day?
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Looks like OP left the building, so we could
argue about what he might have meant
or might want to do.

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