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Old 05-25-2012, 10:48 PM   #1
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I have been asked by my neighbor to construct a gate between a fence and his stucco house. The fence is kinda shaky and out of whack so i do not want to hinge from there.
But my question is, how should i attach my 2x4 board to the stucco to hinge off of. or should i just put a post right against the house?
I would like to do the job , but if it requires me to chop out the stucco for a solid connection then i might pass.
any ideas would be appreciated.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:03 PM   #2
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Re: Gate Vs Stucco House


Is gate gate very heavy. The problem sometimes with trying to set a post that close to the wall will be the house footing. The other question is are you married to an exact gate location? If not you can attach a 2x with lags through the stucco into a stud.

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you could do a post next to house, and run a 2x4 across the top and attach to the fence as a header. it will help keep things equal distance apart.
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yeah, i'd also try to attach a 4x to the stucco with a couple washers between the stucco and the 4x to allow air movement so it can dry out between the two. insert some caulking in there before you use your ledger locks (or equivalent) to attach the 4x to the framing inside the wall.
if you attach an archway or something it'll help the latch side from moving too much.
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have a look at this

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or fix the fence then attach to the new fence...more work for you...more work more money
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Is gate gate very heavy. The problem sometimes with trying to set a post that close to the wall will be the house footing. The other question is are you married to an exact gate location? If not you can attach a 2x with lags through the stucco into a stud.
finding the stud is the issue.

although the garage is open from the inside so i can just measure out on the outside.

its just a 3' gate thing, not very heavy
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if the garage is open from the inside just add some flat backing (extra$) and proceed just as Auto said
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if the garage is open from the inside just add some flat backing (extra$) and proceed just as Auto said
its drywalled but i will be able to find the studs
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If there is no stud where you need to attach the gate, cut the drywall add blocks and repatch same
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If there is no stud where you need to attach the gate, cut the drywall add blocks and repatch same

thats what i was gonna do.
I don't need to worry about crushing the stucco foam when i reef the **** out of the bolt?
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Cut some 3/4" conduit 2 1/4" long, use a 1 1/2" fender washer between the conduit and the gate post. The washer disperses the pressure when you tighten up the carriage bolt going all the way thru and will give you about a 3/16" gap between the post and the stucco.

Put the conduit on a slight angle so water doesn't run into the garage wall and cause future rot.
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So now its official. and im doing another gate on the other side.
I will have to lag into stucco that is on solid double brick so i can just use shields i guess.

Im gonna try to get the holes dug this weekend, once the holes are in i can work my carpentry magic after school. but i want the posts and concrete set ASAP. I have a shed for the 23 of June and then after July 1rst im working for Chris...
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so
i dug my holes thursday
and friday. It really wasnt too bad. I bought the fiskars clam shovel and man it works magic. On only one hole i had to break through concrete.
So today chris was kind enough to come down my way and use his truck to pick up the supplies.
600kg of concrete plus wood..not light,
these 6x6x10' that the HO wanted have got to weigh about 180lbs each.
they is heavy!
So today i square up my lines to the house and set a line back to measure to.
I put a bit of concrete at the bottom of each hole to lift the posts up, and i got them exactly the same height
The one is right up against the house, so i had a bit of a hard time getting concrete behind the post. but i poked it alot so...
Im so glad my dad came to help me. he would hold the post in the spot and plumb it up while i braced and put concrete in, couldn't have done it without him!!
Blah blah got 2 set, left the concrete a bit down from grade. Tommorow i will build this fence section and set the other 2 posts.
I might actually make a profit on this job
So me and Chris were a bit perplexed about what to do...on the side that is in the pic, where the path is i need to attach a 2x6 to the house for the latch..we drilled a small hole and there was over 4" of foam.. i will PL it to the wall but i need a mechanical fastening ideea.
According to the HO there is solid brick behind it..
Any idea?
Oh, i mean i have built gates and stuff in the past but what are some good ideas to build better gates that dont sag or get messed?
when he sees how good i will build this, he will get me to do his deck, and shed, and so on
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Can't you just use some long lags with shields?

Good gates require cross bracing or turn buckles to keep them square.
Hinge strength is equally important.
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You may not have the budget for these painted gates but keep your sites set on going all out for the high end stuff, you'll get there if you keep at it.

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This gate is simple, light and strong. You could do something like this right now

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An easily overlooked "critical step" in the cross bracing of gates, (at least in my area) is the slope of the brace.

If your diagonal brace is wood, then it must slope from the bottom hinge point, UP to the latch side. Wood has strength in compression, not tension.

Almost EVERY gate I see around here is braced backwards, and ALL the gates are sagging.


I would imagine you already knew this bit of information Nick, but I figured I'd say it any way.


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My last gate used 10' 6x6's nice and light huh?

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An easily overlooked "critical step" in the cross bracing of gates, (at least in my area) is the slope of the brace.

If your diagonal brace is wood, then it must slope from the bottom hinge point, UP to the latch side. Wood has strength in compression, not tension.

Almost EVERY gate I see around here is braced backwards, and ALL the gates are sagging.


I would imagine you already knew this bit of information Nick, but I figured I'd say it any way.


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My last gate used 10' 6x6's nice and light huh?
i always add diagonals.
and it goes from plumb and the bottom to a horizontal cut on top?
man i just figured out they did not give me grooved 2x4s for lattice. if they gave me the regular ones thats fine ill make some. if not then
i paid for them and they aint here
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Can't you just use some long lags with shields?

Good gates require cross bracing or turn buckles to keep them square.
Hinge strength is equally important.
dont those gates twist?
i was gonna build mine the same way. 2x4s on flat..
i still will i think
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They could twist I suppose - However, these are mahogany 5/4" buscuited, glued and painted. Soft pine originally used on these gates rotted away pretty quick so I went with a more durable solution with the mahogany. Pretty rock solid for this size and quite durable.

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