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04-04-2008, 03:02 PM
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Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Anyone have any experience with this product? A builder a do work for wants me to use this stuff & I'm leary to say the least. He did not say anything about using it before I started the job, then it just shows up on a Fed-Ex truck. I hate being a guinee pig on new products. T&G cedar going on under the joist. Here's their website......... www.dekdrain.com
Tia for any comments. |
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04-04-2008, 04:15 PM
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Composite Decking Mfr
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Al,
I haven't worked with that one personally but it is very similar to the Rain Escape one that we push. It's all fairly simple and straightforward, my only caveat is to be careful walking on the joists while installing the decking - the plastic can be slippery. Rain Escape includes a funnel for the troughs to discharge into but this system doesn't need any caulk or tape across the top of the joists. Marty |
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04-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Workin' Hard & Havin' Fun
 
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
I've looked at it, but haven't installed it yet.
I like that it's integrated into the next version of Deck Tools, and I like the "no caulk" bit, but I don't like the fact that I've got to install something under it to finish things off. Just my thoughts... ~Matt |
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04-04-2008, 11:18 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion Systemi used it just recently for two decks and it worked fine. It is kind of a pain if the house has brick on it, but if it has siding it would go on fairly quickly.(difficult to flash the dek-drain properly against the brick) The thing that impressed me the most was the helpfullness of the company. We were using it on a million dollar house and I was very tentative about "practicing" on a house of this caliber. If you have any questions, just call the company. I talked to the inventor of the product several times and he was extremely helpful.
These two decks have held up to a lot of precipitation in the last couple of months, and no leaks yet!!! good luck. |
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04-08-2008, 02:37 AM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Well I'm glad to hear positive feedback. I told the guy that I'm not going to be responseable if the stuff leaks a couple of years down the road, but I would do my best with it & test it before installing decking. Using Timbertech with their new hidden fasteners so I figure I'd better throw some boards down before installing then run the hose over it & see how well the stuff works. Cedar lap & gap siding that needed exisiting flashing replaced anyway so I'll pull bottom row off to install new flashing.
Marty, I had the same thought especially since it's about 20' above grade. No falls in the 35 years I've doing this stuff so no sense starting now. |
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04-08-2008, 02:08 PM
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Composite Decking Mfr
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
That's good Al. Be safe.
The hose test is a good idea, especially test anywhere you have taped around posts, or had to do anything fancy because of bridging, etc. Don't want to ruin that nice T&G cedar ceiling! A thought, if it's of interest to this builder, is that you can get a LEED point for collecting the rainwater from these systems for garden usage. Marty |
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04-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Going to install it for the first time next week -- let me know if you run across any issues I should be aware of. The HO wants it simply because he can install whatever ceiling he wants below it. It is going on a mahogany and cedar deck so he wants the ceiling to look great also and most of the underdecking systems out there won't look as good with this deck so . . .
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04-08-2008, 09:49 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion SystemQuote:
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04-08-2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
This is going on a deck that I built last year and now they decided they want this so I am going to be using the underside not the topside but I will keep you informed.
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04-10-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
do they make something like that but in aluminum or metal?
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04-10-2008, 12:41 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Deckman, you gonna start a thread here w/ pics of this big ass project? I'd love to see 'em!
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04-10-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
used dry-deck from timber tech. I was pretty good except that when it showed up I had half the deck framed 12 o.c. and it was for 16" o.c. that sucked
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04-12-2008, 02:03 AM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion SystemQuote:
While I may be proud of some of these bigger/fancier/new product projects I do nowadays I long for those 10x20 cedar decks I use to get so many of. My wallet longs for them too cause I know I make more $ on the simple plain jane decks. |
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06-30-2010, 11:02 AM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Isn't Dek Drain just rubber roofing cut into tapered strips?
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06-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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06-30-2010, 11:04 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion SystemQuote:
I didn't think it would be that BIG of a deal. |
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07-01-2010, 07:30 AM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion SystemQuote:
It annoys people when someone asks the exact same question in different threads. Makes you look like a non-pro too. But go ahead and keep up the attitude while you're at it... Last edited by DecksEtc; 07-01-2010 at 07:23 PM. Reason: spelling |
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07-01-2010, 07:46 AM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
It did not look like roofing rubber to me, however I'm not a roofer so I don't know, not torch down stuff for sure.
I no longer work for that GC so I don't know if it leaks or not. I did not like using an untested product on a high end project & got in trouble with the GC for letting my opinions known. Also they want you to pull up a few deck boards every year hose down your trenches to clear debris to keep warranty in place. I know darn well most HOer's will not do that. I would not use it again. There's better ways to get the same result. |
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07-01-2010, 01:07 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Removing boards doesn't work with the TimberTech hidden fasteners. Thanks for the info. I'll have to check that out. My homeowner wanted to keep dry but I don't want to deal with warrantee issues.
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07-01-2010, 08:38 PM
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Re: Dek-Drain Water Diversion System
Start digging into all their testing data and you will find out its 45 mil EPDM rubber... attainable at most roofing supply houses for less than $1 sq ft... And they want what??? $5 sq ft?
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