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Old 04-14-2008, 06:10 PM   #1
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Deck With Stairs At 45 Degrees At Corner


Building a 16 X 15 foot deck, custoner wants steps to cut off the corner of deck at 45* stating 8' from house and 9'from right hand side. How do I lay out the piers to feed the joist across? If the piers are parallel to the house and Ledger, and the joist are perpendicular the house I end up with 5 feet of joist overhang right in the middle at the top of the steps. I especially don't like that since I'll be using 5/4 for the decking. If I run the piers at a 45* angle to the house and parallel to the steps I end up with a huge overhang from the house to the steps and in the opposite corner. I think my only option is to run the piers parallel to the house and put in a short 7 foot pier at a 45* angle at the start of the steps. Any other suggestion or does that seem like the way to go?

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Old 04-14-2008, 08:04 PM   #2
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I am so confused right now. A drawing or pic would help this work-weary brain a little...

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Thanks for braking the ice. I too have no idea what he is talking about.
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Check out diagram below - just make sure footings where angled beam ends terminate are large enough to hold two sets of posts - one for the parallel beam and one for the angled beam.

This keeps joist cantilever to less than 2' and gives plenty of stability for staircase.

I won't make any comments on the size (width) of the staircase in relation to the rest of the deck, although I will say you will probably need a handrail running down the center line of the stairs because they are so wide.

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Have you ever built a deck? If you can read a square and find a 45 degree angle this project should not be a problem. Everything for the stairs will come off of your bandboard. Justa make sure that you have the footers needed for the stairs.
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Forgive me for being cynical. This guy is already in busiiness, has a licence, and can't figure out a simple thing like how to place footings on a simple deck?
don't they have to pass a test or something to get a licence?
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Mac, pat yourself on the back. You solved the mystery of the ages.

By the way, that beam at 45 deg., might require a pier in the middle, especially if you are hanging steps off of the fascia.
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Mac, pat yourself on the back. You solved the mystery of the ages.

By the way, that beam at 45 deg., might require a pier in the middle, especially if you are hanging steps off of the fascia.
I don't wanna jump on EVERY noob that walks through the door. I'm not a xenophobe, I just can't stand the "How much do I charge" and the "What's the going rate" crap - this guy had a legitimate "How do I do this" question. Bummer that it was his FIRST post but maybe he'll stick around and become a positive addition to the site.
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I sure as hell don't know everything, I'm not expecting anyone else to either. I learn lots of stuff from this site...

As to posting up in the middle of the angled beam span, I figure if my diagram gets him on the right track, he can work up the spans/beam sizes for his application. I don't know the deck height, number of beams, joist sizes, anything....

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don't they have to pass a test or something to get a licence?
you gotta be kiddin' me - when was the last time a contractor license test had ANYTHING to do with being able to build something?

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you gotta be kiddin' me - when was the last time a contractor license test had ANYTHING to do with being able to build something?

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Mac, Thanks for the response. Your drawing was consistant with my solution. I appreciate your willingness to take the time to respond

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ease up on this guy. his first post and you guys are all jumping his ****.
what's wrong with some helpful advice instead?
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ease up on this guy. his first post and you guys are all jumping his ****.
what's wrong with some helpful advice instead?

Thats a group of framers for ya...

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