Deck With Stairs At 45 Degrees At Corner

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Building a 16 X 15 foot deck, custoner wants steps to cut off the corner of deck at 45* stating 8' from house and 9'from right hand side. How do I lay out the piers to feed the joist across? If the piers are parallel to the house and Ledger, and the joist are perpendicular the house I end up with 5 feet of joist overhang right in the middle at the top of the steps. I especially don't like that since I'll be using 5/4 for the decking. If I run the piers at a 45* angle to the house and parallel to the steps I end up with a huge overhang from the house to the steps and in the opposite corner. I think my only option is to run the piers parallel to the house and put in a short 7 foot pier at a 45* angle at the start of the steps. Any other suggestion or does that seem like the way to go?

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buildenterprise

I am so confused right now. A drawing or pic would help this work-weary brain a little...

Chris G

Thanks for braking the ice. I too have no idea what he is talking about.

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BuiltByMAC

Check out diagram below - just make sure footings where angled beam ends terminate are large enough to hold two sets of posts - one for the parallel beam and one for the angled beam.

This keeps joist cantilever to less than 2' and gives plenty of stability for staircase.

I won't make any comments on the size (width) of the staircase in relation to the rest of the deck, although I will say you will probably need a handrail running down the center line of the stairs because they are so wide.

Mac

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Royal-T

Have you ever built a deck? If you can read a square and find a 45 degree angle this project should not be a problem. Everything for the stairs will come off of your bandboard. Justa make sure that you have the footers needed for the stairs.

Stone Mountain

Forgive me for being cynical. This guy is already in busiiness, has a licence, and can't figure out a simple thing like how to place footings on a simple deck?
don't they have to pass a test or something to get a licence?

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redwood

Mac, pat yourself on the back. You solved the mystery of the ages.

By the way, that beam at 45 deg., might require a pier in the middle, especially if you are hanging steps off of the fascia.

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BuiltByMAC

I don't wanna jump on EVERY noob that walks through the door. I'm not a xenophobe, I just can't stand the "How much do I charge" and the "What's the going rate" crap - this guy had a legitimate "How do I do this" question. Bummer that it was his FIRST post but maybe he'll stick around and become a positive addition to the site.
(By the way, welcome to the site DDI. Sorry, just can't call ya Dad)

I sure as hell don't know everything, I'm not expecting anyone else to either. I learn lots of stuff from this site...

As to posting up in the middle of the angled beam span, I figure if my diagram gets him on the right track, he can work up the spans/beam sizes for his application. I don't know the deck height, number of beams, joist sizes, anything....

Mac

BuiltByMAC

you gotta be kiddin' me - when was the last time a contractor license test had ANYTHING to do with being able to build something?

Mac

neolitic

Around here the test is
can you sign a check!

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Dad'll do it

Mac, Thanks for the response. Your drawing was consistant with my solution. I appreciate your willingness to take the time to respond

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blindhammer

ease up on this guy. his first post and you guys are all jumping his ****.
what's wrong with some helpful advice instead?

cmansmith

Thats a group of framers for ya...