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Trade: home construction
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Grand Ledge, MI
Posts: 94
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Deck Over, Or Replace
Customer wants PT decking replaced with composite 5/4 X 6 over 17 yr old deck, the framework of which appears solid. 4 X 4 PT burried posts are rot free at least 1 ft. below grade. 2 X 10 PT joists are solid and rot-free.
How long will those posts last? Should I insist on taking the entire deck down, or is it common to replace decking on a deck this old? Thanks, Bob |
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Custom Stuff
Trade: General Contractor - Custom Renovations
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Manassas, VA
Posts: 859
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Re: Deck Over, Or Replace
What does your local code say? If anything on the substructure is not to code, you must correct it. If too much is out of code, replace it all. I don't like 4x4's unless the deck is close to the ground. 17 yrs, I would be careful about the ledger attachment and flashing. If it has rotted behind the siding, and you don't bring it up, you own it. Also, how deep are the posts? Footered? What's it look like deeper than one foot?
You are probably better off just doing the whole thing over, IMO. Especially with composites. The problems that get you are the ones you find later.
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Curmudgeon
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
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Re: Deck Over, Or Replace
Have done them that age if they
don't want to pay to re-frame and it's all solid. The posts usually rot at grade or from the tops, if they didn't use cuprinol on the cut. I slather all the cuts and joints with cuprinol before the re-skin. Good luck.
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Pro
Trade: Deck Builder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Austin, Tx.
Posts: 1,501
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Re: Deck Over, Or Replace
If you are putting on a high end composite that will last say 30 years that means the frame must hold up for 47 years, probably too long imo.
If you need the work & it's not in the customers budget to re-frame then go for it, but word your contract carefully. |
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decks-patios-remodeling
Trade: Deck, patios & remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 71
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Re: Deck Over, Or Replace
Good advice! But framing (generally speaking of course) is the least expensive part of the job. If they want the composite stuff the extra work t/o & reframing should'nt be overly burdensome. If there's any doubt about the framing I'd talk 'em into a full replacement.
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Composite Decking Mfr
Trade: Manufacturer of Composite Decking, LEED AP
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Biddeford, ME
Posts: 135
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Re: Deck Over, Or Replace
What about the possibility that 1992 PT is better than 2009 PT? Probably doesn't enter it but maybe it's a minor consideration. Some older decks I've looked at, the wood was much better than what you can get now.
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