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RobertCDF · 11-09-2006, 05:52 PM

Here is the project I am working on right now... I picture framed the sides and the end (by the rocks) What I want your help with is:
Do you think I should double up the picture frame at the end by the rocks. (the sides have a double frame)
Or do you think I should leave it as a single?
I was thinking leaving it a single so that the long cut of the angle (the rim is at about a 3.5 degree angle) on the decking boards butting into it are as far out as possible.
But then will it look odd?

Bone Saw · 11-09-2006, 06:29 PM

Hej Rob, not quite sure I'm understanding correctly, or if this helps, but, for the sake of continuity I would double the end and miter. Far as the rim running askew, I'd pull up that last board and lay your last two(pic frame) running long and scribe edge intersections for symetrical miters.

Woodcrafter74 · 11-09-2006, 09:31 PM

Robert,
I'm a little confrused too, but I do agree that the corners should be mitered. If you don't miter the corners on the outside border (single or double) it will be the same as all the other deck boards, right? I did a double picture frame about a month ago, I'll take some pics tomorrow and post if you haven't already finished by then.

Ciao,

RobertCDF · 11-09-2006, 11:32 PM

The problem is the rim is not a square. It runs next to the rock wall. So one side of the deck is 15' 8" (roughly) and the other end is 14' 4" (roughly) I was not planning on having the pic frame go to the end. I was going to run the decking boards out wild and snap a line and cut them at the angle. But I thought that might look bad. Here is a quick pic of what is going on here.
I think I will double up the end one to match the sides. This project has kind of been a pain. I keep changing my mind about what I want to do. I guess I should have thought things through a little more before I started cutting things.

North Country · 11-09-2006, 11:52 PM

Rob,

With the deck being skewed like it is it seems that no matter which route you choose will look "off" because of the taper. Though it's probably already too late, but what about double out side rims on the right and left (square cut ends) and running the center diagnol, then it wouldnt appear off. Just a thought.

Bone Saw · 11-10-2006, 12:02 AM

Oi Rob, thats a real bugger there, How about running your decking out normally and cut, omitting railing there and put bench seating along that rim. 2 things it will conceal and obscure the edge and mabey run the seating boards perpendicular to rim, let edge close to rocks fly and scribe to rocks. If nothing else I would forget the pic frame on the end

RobertCDF · 11-10-2006, 12:22 AM

This deck is roughly 21' wide and they wanted no seams. That is why the double pic frame... There is not going to be rails at the rock side... There will be a set of stairs that scales the rocks to get to the level above. I think the benches is an excelent idea. I am going to pitch it to the homies and see what they think.

Woodcrafter74 · 11-10-2006, 08:06 AM

Ay, that makes more sense now. How about dynamite?
I think if you're going to be able to see the outside edge, I'd use the double frame, but if you're able to camoflauge it with benches, it might be better to use only a single frame so that the angled boards are more hidden. Aren't these kinds of projects fun!?

I'd like to see some pics at the end.

Bone Saw · 11-10-2006, 08:58 AM

I know you dont want to hear this rob, but you should have done the double pic frame and worked from the rim to the house.

RobertCDF · 11-10-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bone Saw

I know you dont want to hear this rob, but you should have done the double pic frame and worked from the rim to the house.

Well the pic frame on the outside rim was not part of the original plan... It occured to me about 1/2 way through decking that the outside would look like crap if it did not have 1 straight line.
Imagine 4-5 decking boards with LONG cuts (86.5 degree angle cuts) at the end of the deck. Versus butting into 1 straight line.

But normally I do what you sugested. I think it is the only way to do it right.