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Old 07-05-2012, 02:55 PM   #21
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I know I read in my last glass magazine that a lot of codes are going to start turning to laminated glass instead. The reason is for safety since laminated doesn't "break". Don't know if you might want to consider that in your next job or not.
This just might be the answer, is laminated glass hard to get and is it cost effective compared to regular tempered? Thanks
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:29 PM   #22
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This is an interesting problem in dealing with the local building departments, plan checkers and engineered products from venders, Trex specifically.

The problem we are having with this is that the plan checker is insisting that the infill (glass) needs to be supported on all four sides, he says that this is prescriptive but I can't find reference to this in the CRC or the CBC 2009.
His insistence on the prescriptive is a little odd as he also says that since we have an engineered and tested product that that would be acceptable.

A Trex representative will be going with us to the BD on Monday to help straighten the issue out which I think is terrific on their part. We will all gain a bit more invaluable information on dealing with these things for the future.

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Old 07-05-2012, 06:06 PM   #23
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go here and click on the link:
http://www.crlaurence.com/apps/conte...ies/index.html
than go to the pictures in this section:
STANDOFFS, GLASS CLAMPS,
SPIDERS AND FITTINGS
and you'll see what i was reffering to
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This just might be the answer, is laminated glass hard to get and is it cost effective compared to regular tempered? Thanks
More than tempered glass, depending on were you get it from. Shouldn't be hard to get.

Either from your local shop, or if you are sneaky enough, from a distributor, which is where I get it from.
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with the help of the Trex rep. Californiadecks got it passed this morning, no worries.
The plan checker could see now that the testing and Trex in-house engineering clearly showed that there is a 3-4" gap on the sides of the infill and it all met code.

Plan checkers are interesting people, he does have the authority to have said no and required that the infill be done as he had wanted before but I think he realized that the city's liability would not be compromised by allowing the engineering to stand.

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Nice update.
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with the help of the Trex rep. Californiadecks got it passed this morning, no worries.
The plan checker could see now that the testing and Trex in-house engineering clearly showed that there is a 3-4" gap on the sides of the infill and it all met code.

Plan checkers are interesting people, he does have the authority to have said no and required that the infill be done as he had wanted before but I think he realized that the city's liability would not be compromised by allowing the engineering to stand.

Andy.
Thanks again Andy, I got to say, you did a great job on those plans too.
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Nice work Andy...

Now you guys will just have to convince the inspector...
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Just call the manufacturer of the railings. Get the city something in writing from the manufacturer staring the installation is fine. Provide that to your inspector and see what happens. Most times they are just wanting to cover their self legally. Providing that letter puts everything on the manufacturer.

Make sure the letter is signed and includes engineering calculations. If they don't accept it, ask them to provide a copy of the code you are violating. If it doesn't work after all, do what they want and get the owner to reimburse you. I'd call this a legitimate change order. There would have been no way to know the hoops that this inspector is making you go through.
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Just call the manufacturer of the railings. Get the city something in writing from the manufacturer staring the installation is fine. Provide that to your inspector and see what happens. Most times they are just wanting to cover their self legally. Providing that letter puts everything on the manufacturer.

Make sure the letter is signed and includes engineering calculations. If they don't accept it, ask them to provide a copy of the code you are violating. If it doesn't work after all, do what they want and get the owner to reimburse you. I'd call this a legitimate change order. There would have been no way to know the hoops that this inspector is making you go through.
You beat me to the punch. Good job.
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Beautiful work.

So what kind of post, beam hardware do you have to use in So Cal.?
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Nice work on those glass rails.

Question on the decking. Why is the decking run on such a slight angle? Makes the decking look skewed at picture frame over by those two doors.
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Beautiful work.

So what kind of post, beam hardware do you have to use in So Cal.?
To be honest that was the first time I used a notched post and beam. Ive always used solid beams. I was cool to try something different
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Nice work on those glass rails.

Question on the decking. Why is the decking run on such a slight angle? Makes the decking look skewed at picture frame over by those two doors.
It's hard to see but the corner of the house is not a ninety degree angle so I ninety degree to one side. And made the landing square to the garage door. If I made the landing run parallel with the decking it would of been out over the concrete steps, would of been a mess. My designer and I both decided this was the best application.
The tree had a lot to do with that shape also.
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Beautiful work.

So what kind of post, beam hardware do you have to use in So Cal.?
I think I remember you mentioned in another post how you prefer solid beam and post caps over notched. I totally agree with you on that. This was the first time I ever tried to get the city to pass this type of beam. It seems to be more popular in other states. They were mostly concerned with railing glass not stopped on all four sides.
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Nice work on those glass rails.

Question on the decking. Why is the decking run on such a slight angle? Makes the decking look skewed at picture frame over by those two doors.
After further thought you brought something very important to my attention. I hate to redo my work, however, I will go back on Monday and skew the lower decking planks to run parallel with the upper decking. I don't need to change the framing just the direction of the planks on the landing only. My thought was before, to run the planks on the landing with line of travel, but after you brought it to my attention you're right, it doesn't look right. Thanks for the constructive criticism. The HO didn't even notice but now that I see it, that is all that matters and I will fix.

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