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Mr know it all....not
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
It will be changing very fast though.... Gotta get this sucker done !!
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
I'm thinking that I could build some simple post sleeves, and use standard 4x4 PT lumber for the post. The 1 x6 would be ripped to 4 1/2" wide, and glued/nailed with stainless finishing nails. That would give me about a 1/4" of play for shimming or twisted posts. It would look someting like this: ![]() Would it hold up? Will the finish nails make it through the wood? Thoughts? Thanks, Brett
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
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John Hyatt
Trade: out door areas, decks,spa room additions,fire pits
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
I use 1x6 1x4 for the post wrap. Griprite makes a trim nailer that will countersink into the endgrain of ipe one bad ass tool. I got the three tool bag for $150 at a trade show.
I use a Makita 8 1/2'' saw with Rousseau stand/outfeed table on site. J. Last edited by John Hyatt; 10-15-2009 at 12:28 PM. |
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
Maybe I should use biscuits for added strength, and to help keep it all aligned. The finish nailer sure is fast and handy for keeping everything in place till the adhesive sets up. I'll need to assemble 17 of these post sleeves, so I need to keep it simple and fast. I don't have enough clamps to hold all these in place if I try to tackle it all in one day. John, From what you descibe, the inside demensions would be 4" x 3 1/2". Would it be easier to use a regular 4x4 instead of the laminated 2x4s, or do you need the extra room? Something like this:
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John Hyatt
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
The idea is to use 1x4 1x6 without cuting anything but the double cut down 2x4 pt posts. The final outcome will allow a 5 1/2 '' cap rail with a reveal on both sides. There will also be a reveal on either side of the post wrap past the 3 1/2'' side where the top and bottom rail fasten.
The posts go inside the frame using 4x4 pt leaves them in the sun while the decking goes down, not good far as movement goes. Two lamed 2x4s have a lot less movement if any at all. Working with 3/4'' material and with in the 3 1/2 / 5 1/2'' sizes makes for good money.The look of this wrap is a very good upsale. The total cost,to me, is below the cost/install of solid 4x4 S American. There is also a way to use half of a 1x6, 2 5/8 '', installed flat for the top and bottom rail. Just another little trick the JonMon has worked out. Last edited by John Hyatt; 10-15-2009 at 01:10 PM. |
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
I rip ipe all of the time on My DeWalt table saw.
My Senco finish nailer has no problem shooting nails into it either. When I first started installing ipe, many years ago, I used PL adhesive with finish nails to hold down the decking. I did use trim head screws on the ends. I never had a call back. I'm not even sure why I stopped doing it that way. I don't think that the ipe today is quite as stable as when I first started using it. It may have been drier. |
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
...decide on what type of wood to use? All Garapa? If so, what supplier?
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
I'm getting quotes from several places, but the following seem to provide the best price: http://www.advantagelumber.com/ http://abswood.com/pages/index.htm http://www.efloor.com/ (Used to be Victory Building) I have not ordered the wood yet, but the largest portion will probably be Garapa, with a Ipe picture frame and stair treads. I'm looking for a pretty significant color contrast. Also Ipe railings to match the border.
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
![]() far as the rail connectors, the decorator rail connectors are the best thing since sliced bread, the only ones you will ever need are the straight rail connectors, the others are superfluous
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
How do you use the straight rail connectors with a railing that is on a 45 degree angle?
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
I dont
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
Two posts per corner. As it should be anyways. |
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John Hyatt
Trade: out door areas, decks,spa room additions,fire pits
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
I tell you boneMon, that song is singing my Life, the only thing missing is the Harley! I never drilled the holes when the pipe came out me the Clemens and the Boys figured out making our own conectors on another site years ago.
I have never done a 12&12 pitch with the rail but hell why not?? Doing stairs ya just cut the conectors,cut the pipe, bang bang install the detail as a unit. No S American order is complete with out a call to EastTeak. JonMon |
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John Hyatt
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
Any other of you guys think the Bim is asking a lot of silly questions for a man that framed a project like that, in PA, with all the wet weather,dont even know about table saws or stairs?? I am thinking a sneeky ho. J.
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Mr know it all....not
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
Who asked about stairs?? BTW, thanks for all the advise on the railings. I'm ordering the lumber today. Its much more interesting to use REAL lumber, instead of all the crap I've used in the past. All the supply yards around here no nothing about S. american hardwoods...they simply try to steer you towards some plastic garbage.
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
Well, I finally received the shipment of lumber, after bouncing between different suppliers, and different wood.
Sure is heavy !!! :-) My trailer is sitting on the axles right now. It looks like I have a window of good weather here in South East PA, and I'm trying to decide if I should leave the wood bundled on my 20' trailer, under a tarp, or should I be storing it in an attached (unheated) garage?? Its a mix of Garapa and Ipe, and it looks rather wet at this point. The Garapa more than the Ipe. I'd appreciate any insight or advice. Thanks, -B
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?Quote:
So its raining outside and I had some scrap Ipe to play with today... I decided to fashion my own rail connectors, as a alternative to the plastic Deckorators ( http://www.bristolvalley.com/catalog...showprevnext=1 ) I have 17 post sleeves (4 connectors per) to install, so I need a method that is relatively quick, and strong. I'll glue it up with some Tightbond III just to be sure nothing moves around, and use 2 of the brown SS trim head screws on each side and 2 into the end grain of the 2x4, which are counter sunk with a Smartbit. Here is my quick mock-up, which feels really strong... (The production version will be cut a bit more accurate, and I'll hit it with the orbital sander before install) ![]()
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
looks like you've been on this projest for at least a month now, at this stage of the game (or any stage for that matter), what you would've spent on rail connectors you'd have made back in spades on time. good luck with that...
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John Hyatt
Trade: out door areas, decks,spa room additions,fire pits
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Re: Can Anyone Recommend A Good Exotic Wood Dealer For Ipe, Garapa, Tigerwood, Etc...?
Im not sure what to think about this dude, but at least he dident spin out the square drive screws!!
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