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Old 11-10-2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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A friend of mine is planning to build a new deck and after seeing the price of composite material he has decided to stick with lumber. Is there a best type lumber to use besides the typical pressue treated Lumber found at Home Depot / Lowes?

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Old 11-10-2006, 05:15 PM   #2
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"Best" in my book means it looks good & needs little maintenance for a very long time... rendering a "great" value.

I primarily do composites...for wood I've used Mahogany with good success...

Suggest to your friend that he consider the resale value, maintenance cost, and attractiveness of a composit before determining to buy soley on "price".

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"Best" in my book means it looks good & needs little maintenance for a very long time... rendering a "great" value.

I primarily do composites...for wood I've used Mahogany with good success...

Suggest to your friend that he consider the resale value, maintenance cost, and attractiveness of a composit before determining to buy soley on "price".

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Agree with Mahogany, tho I like the look of white or light colored ledger trim with the mahogany.... (like in my avatar)
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I would do nothing short of composite (Correct Deck) ... NEVER PT and maybe redwood or an imported hardwood... But then again I come from a VERY harsh UV enviroment.
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Cedar is my preferred wood of choice. Getting into hardwoods is going to cost close to if not more than composite. It will all depend on your friend's preference.

BTW, don't get ANY wood from HD or Lowes. Look around for lumber yards in your area and you'll likely get a better price and superior quality.
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I've only built one PT deck (last year). I priced both PT and composite for the homeowner. He decided on PT. He called a few weeks ago and is considering replacing with composite.

Composite railing is quite expensive, maybe suggest your friend go with composite decking with cedar posts/rails and deckorators ballusters--still a nice looking deck without too much maintenance.
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Personally I think wood railings are the worst thing you can do... Ever stained a deck before? What is the hardest part and what is the easiest part? The floor is cake, takes no time. Spend the money on the rails so you dont have to stain that.Think about it staining a 2x4 with deckorators balusters would be a REAL pain in the butt every 2 years.
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I prefer Vertical Grain Fir over Mahogany
Pros = Lighter ,LAST LONGER, eaiser to work with
Cons = Cost more , can only get it a couple times a year around here.
Mohogany will rot (usually the ends or where it comes in contact whit the framing ) in 10-15 years ,
But it is amazeing how every 10 years the lumber yards allways say "Oh that was the mohogany from Belieze this is the good Mohogany from east jabip
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2 deck's side by side built in 85
5000 sq ft Mohog deck
4000 sq ft Vertical grain fir
Have replaced atleast half of the Mohog over the years
The VGF has never been an issue.

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Cypress or ipe.
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If price is a concern maybe he can take out a loan and do the project once. PT costs more money over the life of the deck and it just looks bad.
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I prefer Vertical Grain Fir over Mahogany
Pros = Lighter ,LAST LONGER, eaiser to work with
Cons = Cost more , can only get it a couple times a year around here.
Mohogany will rot (usually the ends or where it comes in contact whit the framing ) in 10-15 years ,
But it is amazeing how every 10 years the lumber yards allways say "Oh that was the mohogany from Belieze this is the good Mohogany from east jabip
example
2 deck's side by side built in 85
5000 sq ft Mohog deck
4000 sq ft Vertical grain fir
Have replaced atleast half of the Mohog over the years
The VGF has never been an issue.
Do you find the fir at one of your local yards or a national distributor. I have never been able to find a source for reliable vertical grain in any quantity without getting too much junk mixed in. The local yards that deal in higher quality woods aren't too happy at allowing us to pick through their entire stock and selecting only the best, and even that doesn't yield nearly enough wood for a deck project.

You have to trust your supplier on mahogany, to be sure that you are getting Honduran, it is the real deal. The several other species marketed as "something or other" mahogany, such as "Phillippine", is nothing but marketing lingo.
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Do you find the fir at one of your local yards or a national distributor. I have never been able to find a source for reliable vertical grain in any quantity without getting too much junk mixed in. The local yards that deal in higher quality woods aren't too happy at allowing us to pick through their entire stock and selecting only the best, and even that doesn't yield nearly enough wood for a deck project.

You have to trust your supplier on mahogany, to be sure that you are getting Honduran, it is the real deal. The several other species marketed as "something or other" mahogany, such as "Phillippine", is nothing but marketing lingo.
No one carries it around here so ,Special order only through a local supply yard.Can only get it once, sometime twice a year. So when we order we get extra and store it. Got an order in abou
t a month ago ,1700sf , 2X4 deck.But we ordered 2300lf of 2x4 and 1000lf of 5/4 X 4 and another 5oo of the 2x6
Once in a while I'll find a couple bad peices(nothing to complain about) Never had a problem with quality just supply.
Another issue is ,,,you can only get mixed leangth's
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Cedar is my preferred wood of choice. Getting into hardwoods is going to cost close to if not more than composite. It will all depend on your friend's preference.

BTW, don't get ANY wood from HD or Lowes. Look around for lumber yards in your area and you'll likely get a better price and superior quality.

Wow, I didn't think anyone used cedar on decks any more. Do you know how many customers I've had in the past 5+ years with a cedar deck that I got to tear out because it was rotten? More than I can count.

In fact, code won't even allow for a deck to be built out of anything but PT or composite here.

I've always used pressure treated; nobody ever wants to pay for composite. I use 2x6 for the treads, though, and not that bullnosed decking board (I don't know what it's called because nobody ever wants that, either).
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Just did a Cambera Mahogany. Spaced all miters 1/8" for drainage. Sealed all end cuts. Routered all edges & end cuts. It's a beauty & should last many many years.
Most failures on decks comes from improper detailing for water. Hey !! It's wood outside!!!.
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Wow, I didn't think anyone used cedar on decks any more. Do you know how many customers I've had in the past 5+ years with a cedar deck that I got to tear out because it was rotten? More than I can count.

In fact, code won't even allow for a deck to be built out of anything but PT or composite here.

I've always used pressure treated; nobody ever wants to pay for composite. I use 2x6 for the treads, though, and not that bullnosed decking board (I don't know what it's called because nobody ever wants that, either).
The two most popular materials here in Toronto are cedar and PT. I personally have had occaision to see some of my own cedar decks 20 years or more after I built them: still in good shape.
We use western red cedar, which is a cousin to redwood. Maybe it's better than your cedar?
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I've always found cedar decking to be very soft and doesn't stand up to traffic. Anyone else?
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I've always found cedar decking to be very soft and doesn't stand up to traffic. Anyone else?
I've always found cedar doesn't stand up to anything...
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A friend of mine is planning to build a new deck and after seeing the price of composite material he has decided to stick with lumber. Is there a best type lumber to use besides the typical pressue treated Lumber found at Home Depot / Lowes?

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Ipe is defently the best wood to use on a decking project. John
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Ipe is defently the best wood to use on a decking project. John

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