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Old 09-29-2008, 12:15 PM   #1
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Hey all. Question on fence posts.
Putting a fence in my backyard and where I want the fence to end, is right where my neighbors footing is (townhouse, where mine is recessed back 6 feet).
So i obviously can not put a hole there, nor do i want to try and attach it to her footing. So my only thought, was to attach a 4x4 post to her foundation wall, then lag down another post for my end post. That way I will just be off 3 1/2" from my property line, and my end post will be sturdy and rigid.
SHE, is having thoughts on it, so i said I would try to find something stating that it was allowed or not, attaching a post with tapcons.
Here's my question.. Where can I find this info? I looked through the codes, but didn't find anything..???
Anyone know where to find this out at?

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Hey all. Question on fence posts.
Putting a fence in my backyard and where I want the fence to end, is right where my neighbors footing is (townhouse, where mine is recessed back 6 feet).
So i obviously can not put a hole there, nor do i want to try and attach it to her footing. So my only thought, was to attach a 4x4 post to her foundation wall, then lag down another post for my end post. That way I will just be off 3 1/2" from my property line, and my end post will be sturdy and rigid.
SHE, is having thoughts on it, so i said I would try to find something stating that it was allowed or not, attaching a post with tapcons.
Here's my question.. Where can I find this info? I looked through the codes, but didn't find anything..???
Anyone know where to find this out at?
I would not do it. It just opens you up to some type of liablity.

Anytime something happens on her side settlement cracks, foundation leaks its going to be because of you in her mind
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I would agree with Rbs.

You should be able to dig down at least a foot or so at this corner. You could then pour concrete around the post. If not maybe you could simply pour a bock of concrete and mount the post to the concrete with a steel post bracket.

How are the other fences in the area done? You can't be the only one with this condition.
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I would not do it. It just opens you up to some type of liablity.

Anytime something happens on her side settlement cracks, foundation leaks its going to be because of you in her mind
Here's a picture Rory,
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I was thinking along those line Tgeb... My only concern is that I want the post to be sturdy. Also, I can't really go to far out from the footing, because then i would have a gap- that a person or animal could go through..
Here are some pics.. The hole is filled with water because of the noreaster that just blew thru here. You can see the footing..
I'm stumped..
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i'd get something in writing. this could end up in litigation
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That concrete that is sticking out helps to deflect snow and water away from the footing.

Breaking off the projecting concrete or drilling in to the footing is just a recipe for problems.

I would personally have about 3-6 inches of clearance between my footing base and her foundation wall with about a foot of gravel for good drainage.

The cookie cutters up there are massed produced and usually have defects existing that you can't even see until right after you set your post next to her foundation
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i'd get something in writing. this could end up in litigation
Well, we will see if I even consider it. My whole thing was to find out if it was doable. I mean, I've seen people with crap screwed into foundations all the time. Like water hose holders, hammocks, hooks for general hanging, garden equipment holders.etc..
If this was my house, I would've done it, but we will see. I would def get something in writing..
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That concrete that is sticking out helps to deflect snow and water away from the footing.

Breaking off the projecting concrete or drilling in to the footing is just a recipe for problems.

I would personally have about 3-6 inches of clearance between my footing base and her foundation wall with about a foot of gravel for good drainage.

The cookie cutters up there are massed produced and usually have defects existing that you can't even see until right after you set your post next to her foundation
Rory, THAT IS the footing, as far as I know. I would definitely not drill into or break anything off. This is why I'm stumped. Don't know where to put the damn thing.. I don't know anyone around here, so I just can't be walking up to peoples house and start snooping around. None of the neighbors I know have a fence either..
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It would cetainly work, I just did the same thing at my house. Only thing is it was attached on my house not the neighbors. As stated above don't do it because of liabilty issues. I would simply put a post in close as you can & run your 2x4's past to the wall.
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Why can't you place the post on the side of the footing and cantilever the fence up to the wall?
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Rory, THAT IS the footing, as far as I know. I would definitely not drill into or break anything off. This is why I'm stumped. Don't know where to put the damn thing.. I don't know anyone around here, so I just can't be walking up to peoples house and start snooping around. None of the neighbors I know have a fence either..

Yeah I realize that so I was saying the water will hit the ground and roll off that concrete ledge. Normally it would roll forward hit dirt and the ground would absorb it.

But now you have the Concrete for your post there the water will gather and pool around her footing. Nothing will probably happen but if it does the cost to repair a foundation problem will be a real downer.

So I would set back my post about 4-6 inches from here footing projection and leave some drain between the two.

May off set the first post??then the other Post will go back out to the property line??
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It would cetainly work, I just did the same thing at my house. Only thing is it was attached on my house not the neighbors. As stated above don't do it because of liabilty issues. I would simply put a post in close as you can & run your 2x4's past to the wall.
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Why can't you place the post on the side of the footing and cantilever the fence up to the wall?
This is for both of you.. I believe I know what your saying, but how would I do this and still keep it aesthetically pleasing. The HOA has strict rules for fences here.
I am, of course, placing 4x4's 8 ft. apart. Then I am going to be running 2x4's on "side" so I can just run the 1x6's straight down and hopefully blend the 4x4's in..
SO, how would I cantilever the 2x4's past the post and somehow keep it looking good?
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You are just looking to enclose the 16 to 24 inch space between the outside edge of the footing and the neighbors building at a 90 degree angle...correct?
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Dig the post hole 24" below
top of footing, pour concrete to
top of footing, back fill and tamp.

Make your return like a little gate.
Two rails, diagonal brace, pickets,
then screw/lag it to the end
of the post.

And they lived happily
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Dig the post hole 24" below
top of footing, pour concrete to
top of footing, back fill and tamp.

Make your return like a little gate.
Two rails, diagonal brace, pickets,
then screw/lag it to the end
of the post.

And they lived happily
ever after.

What he said, but I would notch the 2x4's into the post then glue it and screw it for added strength...and you might want to ask if you can add a couple screws into the corner board of your neighbors house...you have to ask the association, as they are responsible for all exteriors.
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What he said, but I would notch the 2x4's into the post then glue it and screw it for added strength...and you might want to ask if you can add a couple screws into the corner board of your neighbors house...you have to ask the association, as they are responsible for all exteriors.
He's only talking about 16"
or so here.
And I'd leave a couple of inches
clear of the neighbor to allow for
painting and goodwill.
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20 posts for a 16" piece of fence.........you would think this was a government job...
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