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Old 09-07-2011, 02:47 PM   #1
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Attaching A Deck (With Caveats)


Hoping you all can help with this one. Never ran into this exact issue before. I have framed around bump-outs and bays, but never had to stop halfway into one.

Building an attached deck 10 ft off the ground, 16' long x 12' deep deck. 13.5' length of the Deck will be attached with ledger to house thru brick veneer to band board with 5/8" bolts.

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However, the last 2.5' of the deck will end at a bump out. Client does not want a column at this point next to the house. How can this be framed so as not to ruin the "livable space" underneath.

The initial plan was to tie in thru the existing house floor joist sistering the deck joist to those and resting them on the foundation wall. This will no doubt be structurally sound, but I can't think of a way to make it ok to run those joist into the house like that without having water problems.

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Framed around a bump out, bay window, or fireplace, but never one that stops mid bump out?

Anyone have any sage advise, or am I missing an easy solution other than the post
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:55 PM   #2
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Why not just use a separate 2.5' ledger attached to the bumpout?

BTW, with a brick veneer, most areas these days require the use of Simpson DTT2s.

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Thanks for the heads up on the Simpson DTT2s... It was my understanding, at least in my area, that attaching into a bump out or bay is always a no go.

Man I would love to be proven wrong on that one though.The plans were approved as is, but I just don't want a call back on water damage.
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The initial plan was to tie in thru the existing house floor joist sistering the deck joist to those and resting them on the foundation wall. This will no doubt be structurally sound, but I can't think of a way to make it ok to run those joist into the house like that without having water problems.
This thread may help address your waterproofing concerns.
http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/wa...d-deck-102183/
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It was my understanding, at least in my area, that attaching into a bump out or bay is always a no go.
Wups, that was my dain bramage kicking in. You're right, that most likely wouldn't fly. Sorry, with no post there, I have nothing else to suggest that isn't covered in that thread Rock refers to.
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i don't think my lumber yard stocks Simpson Caveats,probably special order thing
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We attach to a cantilever all the time, we pull the bottom off and reinforce with an engineered detail that has an engineers stamp. Tell the HO that if he wants no post then pony up for the engineer.
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We attach to a cantilever all the time, we pull the bottom off and reinforce with an engineered detail that has an engineers stamp. Tell the HO that if he wants no post then pony up for the engineer.
Robert

I have a similar issue coming up with a deck where we need to attach to a cantilevered bay. I remember you posting a picture of a job you did where you beefed up the bay for the deck attachment. Can you share any picture or ideas of what you had to do get this work.

Thanks in advance !
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I have a similar issue coming up with a deck where we need to attach to a cantilevered bay. I remember you posting a picture of a job you did where you beefed up the bay for the deck attachment. Can you share any picture or ideas of what you had to do get this work.

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PM your email or just email me and I will send over the details.
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PM your email or just email me and I will send over the details.
Robert, sent you a PM, I would appreciate that as well if you could.

Thanks for everyones feedback,
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