Another Curved Deck/stair Project

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have 6 days into it so far

Cole

Nice work!

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RobertCDF

Looking good... What kind of decking and railing are you doing?

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Chris G

Hey Bonesaw,

Do you ever kerf cut the back of your rim joists before you bend them? Did you steam that board or was it wet enough to bend as is?

Bone Saw

hej Rob, its getting TT tropical teak (conceal loc) on the surface frame stained to match, and TT redwood and deckorator bronze colonial for the railing.

chris I do kerf the back sides on dry pieces or radius tighter than 10' this radius was 12'9" and I saved the wetest/heaviest pieces for it, it bent around like butter, the other side will have an 8'9" radius and will get kerfed. the winches straps and comealongs make east work of it.

E.C

Nice work Bone Saw..

Teetorbilt

SWEET! How are you holding the radius at the butt joints? I notice one in the open in the curve. In boatbuilding we end at a rib and fair. With decks I do the of the same but have thought of a floating backer block.

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I strategically put butt joints where railpost layout will fall (attached outside of rim) so the post laps both pieces. I use comealongs cargo straps and ratchet straps to hold everything in place while I put tieplates at every joist/rim connection. As far as the actuall joint itself (scarfed at 20deg), no matter how perfect you fit/align it in, it always needs to be chased out with a saw. while holding both pieces under tension at the joint, I can tweak it in or out so the cuts are parrellell, then generously apply epoxy and shims to fill the gap, plane and beltsand the ***** out of it to make it look good. once tension is let out, it doesnt move. As an aside, are any of you guys who put railpost outside the rim pissed about not having solid posts available anymore, I have to make caps to cover the bottom beveled cut. At least the manufacturers could make a cap that would work with their respective sleeves at a given bevel???

Teetorbilt

I don't know what you are using but I use hydrophilic epoxy, it's great for wet wood.

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Bone Saw

west system 105/205, I use it with microballoons to make nail head filler. if you go to that putfile link steve, there are a couple of close ups of the joint

RobertCDF

Hey Chris how are you likeing that timbertech? Just had someone ask me about that exact color.... Looks nice in your pics. But the last TT deck I did it seemed to scratch easy but that was 3 years ago. How is the conceal loc?

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RYANINMICHIGAN

a true craftsman. you are selling you not the deck

Bone Saw

thanx gents, much appreciated. Rob, the earthwoods line as far as I'm concerned is the best looking stuff out there, It truely looks like a million bucks when you lay it down. I couldn't agree more, in fact if you read some of my older posts, how I think the florizon, twin finnish boards are the absolutel WORST with color fade, staining, scratching, and mold (never could understand why everyone was so hellbent on hating trex, when it was these brushed finished boards giving composites a bad name) So far I'd have to say it is pretty good on the scratching as it pertains to storage handeling transit and installation, much better than trex. The conceal lock is hands down the best godddamn clip on the planet. once you use it, It really makes all those other clips and systems (other than mabey deckmaster) look like chincey crap. I really like those new correct deck colors, they are going to steam roll right over procell, procell brings nothing to the table far as I'm concerned

builderr

quite a project!!!!
I just have one question...
It looks like you attached the ledger right over the vinyl siding?
just saying!

Bone Saw

looks can be decieving

BuiltByMAC

Another sweet looking project, Bone!

Gotta love seam boards, they make the surface so much nicer visually than random butt joints. You get kudos for bending the TT boards, those are some heavy, stiff suckers! Did you use additional fastening for the seam boards - glue or screws up through the joists from below?

Conceal-Loc is a good system - I didn't go too much slower using them than I would top screwing TT. I predrill all screw holes in that stuff so being able to bypass that step... hell, it was probably faster going with the Conceal-Loc! Although those little #1 square heads strip out easy if you hit dense wood.

The attention to detail makes your projects really stand out - it's good to see that kind of craftsmanship still around.

Enjoy your weekend, man!

Mac

Bone Saw

thanx Mac, coming from you, it means alot, as your work takes attention to detail and flawlessness to the highest levels i've seen in deckbuilding. bending the segment boards wasn't hard at all, although it is considerabley easier with trex and other "flimsey" boards, yes the tt is very stiff, and it's not the bending of the ark that is tough, but keeping the ends good and aligned. Because the boards are not only arked, but considerabley skewed to the axis of the joists it was a real bitch coming up with a way to deal with supporting the ends of both "halves" of the normal decking boards. I laid it all out on autocad, great, but sometimes when taking work from paper to hammer and nail things get screwey, I wanted some emperical way to ensure that I was on track with all the blocking, but after alot of headscratching, I just took 2 small pieces of the boards for a gauge and just "winged" it. If any of you happened to see those old progress pix of the other curved stairs from the 3 leaf clover job, I am going to try a whole different approach this time, if it works it should cut production time to practically nil, but if it doesn't I'm only out 2 pieces of 2x10, I'll post progrees pix in a putfile link when I start them

BreyerConstruct

Very cool Chris!

Keep us posted.
~Matt

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Tom M

You do some nice work. Does working with wet stringer help persuay the curve? Have you ever had an issue with strength of the stringer? I would think the wieght would want to push out and bow the curve mid-point.